tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post464996180368959447..comments2024-01-31T17:34:09.607-08:00Comments on Seahawks Draft Blog: My updated mock draft (rounds 1&2)Rob Statonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-84832837159760119462009-04-16T03:02:00.000-07:002009-04-16T03:02:00.000-07:00I don't think it's too bad. We currently have the ...I don't think it's too bad. We currently have the same three linebackers on our roster that we had in 2005 (13-3, Superbowl XL). <br /><br />There's only so many tackles to go around and with Tatupu soaking things up through the middle and Leroy Hill probably moving to a more pass-rush focussed role, whoever starts alongside that might find it difficult to have a big impact. To compare, Leroy Hill as a rookie had 7.5 sacks. They then signed Julian Peterson and Hill had 6 sacks in three years. <br /><br />They could try to find another impact rookie in the middle rounds. Jason Williams from Western Illinois could be that type of prospect.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-41500054479396930022009-04-15T19:56:00.000-07:002009-04-15T19:56:00.000-07:00Thanks for the feedback Rob,
How is the LB core wi...Thanks for the feedback Rob,<br />How is the LB core without peterson?Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16701065592272293830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-75484688381481880492009-04-15T01:35:00.000-07:002009-04-15T01:35:00.000-07:00Thanks for the heads up on Alphonso Smith, I see w...Thanks for the heads up on Alphonso Smith, I see where you coming from there and I've probably concentrated too much on a certain position rather than value with that choice.<br /><br />Nice mock, Brandon. I personally think Jason Smith will go second overall because he's a better run blocker. I anticipate St Louis looking to run the ball a lot as Steve Spagnuolo moulds his Rams team into something akin to the Giants. If Jason Smith makes it to number four in that situation I'm half inclined to suggest the Seahawks would probably be all over that pick. He has massive upside and would fit their new zone blocking scheme perfectly. Although he wouldn't necessarily be an 'impact' player, I think Smith would be too good to pass.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-43086079600071197932009-04-15T00:50:00.000-07:002009-04-15T00:50:00.000-07:00Derek Pegues isnt bad, i go to ms state so ive see...Derek Pegues isnt bad, i go to ms state so ive seen him a play a lot.<br /><br />In round two, i could almost assure you that jags get alphonso smith in that situation and then senderrick marks in 3 to fix DT.<br /><br />Good mock though, Rob<br />Give a look at mine and tell me what you think if ya dont mind.<br /><br />http://jaguarsfootballtalk.blogspot.com/2009/04/1-matthew-stafford-qb-georgia-detroit.htmlBrandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16701065592272293830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-19932583877681051152009-04-14T20:46:00.000-07:002009-04-14T20:46:00.000-07:00Sorry, I was wrong on the hands, they are arguably...Sorry, I was wrong on the hands, they are arguably the strongest and at 9 and 1/4 are secod only to a few guys who were over 6'3", I think the only 4 to have over 10 inchers (don't laugh)...<br /><br />his arms are the second longest at 34 1/4, again only to Ramses B. who is 6'6"-Peace and GO HAWKS!gonzhawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336019809206300157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-51334424747241056332009-04-14T20:40:00.000-07:002009-04-14T20:40:00.000-07:00Hey Rob, do you know a guy named theEnglishseahawk...Hey Rob, do you know a guy named theEnglishseahawk?<br /><br />Anyway, great draft as always-<br /><br />Hey K, Crabs has the second "hugest" hands for a receiver in the draft and can run and sell routes pretty well, and you are correct sir about the speed, but Fitzgeral and Anquan will tell you that it is overrated (4.6 and 4.7 respectively, right Rob?)<br /><br />I think Smith and Kropog would be great-we probably need a good OL in the first 3 rounds don't you think?<br /><br />I also agree with Charley Casserly that Orakpo looks stiff, plays stiff and is a stiff-and want no part of that workout warrior! <br /><br />Ps. great work as always and thanks for the Blog...gonzhawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01336019809206300157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-5606065732048359402009-04-14T18:48:00.000-07:002009-04-14T18:48:00.000-07:00I wish I could be more enthusiastic about drafting...I wish I could be more enthusiastic about drafting a WR with the fourth pick in the draft. I would be if there was someone who was 6'3", huge hands, a speed merchant, and a great route runner. In the absence of that, the track record of first round WRs just isn't that impressive.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10222703055177237209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-34641971404266513272009-04-14T17:18:00.000-07:002009-04-14T17:18:00.000-07:00Hi annonymous, thanks for visiting the blog so fre...Hi annonymous, thanks for visiting the blog so frequently. After I finished university I went to live in Vancouver and had the chance to travel to Seattle. On one of my trips accross the border, I had a chance to watch the Seahawks and basically became hooked from that day and I've had an unhealthy obsession for the team ever since.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-60468586501403157812009-04-14T16:36:00.000-07:002009-04-14T16:36:00.000-07:00Rob, I like your site--I visit it several times a ...Rob, I like your site--I visit it several times a day! I'm sure you've already answered, but how did you become a Seahawks fan living in England?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-7629504574945673392009-04-14T15:35:00.000-07:002009-04-14T15:35:00.000-07:00I think it's important to put things into context ...I think it's important to put things into context with Wells and Orakpo. Rob Rang's latest mock shows how far Orakpo could fall (he goes 20th overall to Detroit). I think that's more an example than anything. I've adjusted my mock to have him go 9th overall but that's as much to do with Aaron Curry being available at five for Cleveland. <br /><br />Orakpo's one of those guys who is difficult to judge. It's not an amazing draft for defensive ends so maybe his stock will remain high if teams feel they have a big need there.<br /><br />With regards to Wells, as I said previously I've had him in my top 10 a few times this year. There's no doubting he has the talent, character and when healthy - production. He's a real boom or bust guy in that if he's healthy, he could have an Adrian Peterson type impact. If he continues to pick up knocks in the NFL, he could be restricted. I think it's becoming clearer where his grading is now and I personally won't be surprised if he's comfortably in the top 15 picks. It's always difficult to judge running backs. Remember last year? Jonathan Stewart was being touted anywhere from a top 15 pick to falling deep into the first round because of a metatarsal injury. He went 13th overall in the end. Wells could beat that.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-6125228475424782812009-04-14T12:01:00.000-07:002009-04-14T12:01:00.000-07:00I'd crack up if Ruskell decided to replace a guy n...I'd crack up if Ruskell decided to replace a guy named Pork Chop with a guy named Jamon. At least it would be a culinary upgrade.<br /><br />My point on Brown/Orakpo/Wells was that the player-specific information cited has been out there for a while already. Maybe you've hit on the explanation for the rises and falls though, in that the more scouts the columnists get to consult over time, the more accurate their read of the actual value teams place on the prospects. Meanwhile in the background, the underlying value isn't changing as much as the perception.Akkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16558823189806739606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-80839715615518548022009-04-14T10:52:00.000-07:002009-04-14T10:52:00.000-07:00I'm hoping we go centre or guard in the 2nd. For m...I'm hoping we go centre or guard in the 2nd. For me Simms and maybe Spencer are bigger liabilities than Russell.Scotia Seahawknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-26605904672702087562009-04-14T10:48:00.000-07:002009-04-14T10:48:00.000-07:00I've seen Sean Smith linked to the Hawks in a few ...I've seen Sean Smith linked to the Hawks in a few draft articles. I'm not against the pick but Ruskell has not done a good job of evaluating that position and we've paid for it with a couple of high draft picks.<br /><br />I would rather we picked up McCoy with that 2nd round pick. It wasn't too long ago that he was a late 1st round pick.Kurtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-29697605014476932782009-04-14T10:27:00.000-07:002009-04-14T10:27:00.000-07:00Hi Daniel,
I did an article on the safety class r...Hi Daniel,<br /><br />I did an article on the safety class recently and Jennings was one of the guys I like. I think he'd be a good option in round four, but I also like Derek Pegues in round four or five. Louis Delmas, if he makes it to 37 could be a possibility.<br /><br />The thinking with the Sean Smith pick is that he can play some CB and safety as a rookie.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-46963479746482835372009-04-14T09:56:00.001-07:002009-04-14T09:56:00.001-07:00I'm LOVE what I see in this mock draft, especially...I'm LOVE what I see in this mock draft, especially with Crabtree and Sean Smith. But what about Rashad Jennings with the third round pick? He seems like a steal in the third round at this point.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320083563451191269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-28689479533547493332009-04-14T09:56:00.000-07:002009-04-14T09:56:00.000-07:00Akki - I think the reason for the Wells/Orakpo sto...Akki - I think the reason for the Wells/Orakpo stock impact is down to discussions with scouts. If you check my archive articles, I've had Wells in the top 10 at various times since January. The talent is definitely there, it's just whether you can rely on his durability. I expect one of the running backs to be taken surprisingly high, whether it's Wells or Knowshon Moreno. Both have top 10 talent and if they do fall, it may just be because teams are going towards two back systems and don't want to invest millions in one back.<br /><br />I'm guessing here with Orakpo, but if you look at photographs of him when he initially joined the Longhorns he was very slight (just over 200lbs I believe). He's become something of a gym rat to bulk up but I think teams are taking the impression that he's bulked up as far as he can go and that maybe he's maxed out. He hasn't got elite speed and his coverage skills are questionable. That creates legitimate questions for 4-3 and 3-4 defenses.<br /><br />With regard to the second round, personally I'm hoping that the Seahawks have a chance to draft Alex Mack. However, I expect him to be off the board. Max Unger and Eric Wood are still on the board and they could easily be the choice, as could Jamon Meredith. Offensive line is a need area for Seattle.<br /><br />However, I like Sean Smith. Yeah he's cocky, but sometimes that's not such a bad thing. I don't think he's a 'bad' character guy, rather than having a certain swagger. He is big for a corner at 6'4" but still has good speed. Maybe he is a bit of a tweener, but the Seahawks can find ways to use him as a rookie at CB or safety. I've had him as a first round pick for a while, but if he does fall I think he would be a nice pick for Seattle.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-69097194464326902362009-04-14T09:48:00.000-07:002009-04-14T09:48:00.000-07:00Hi Brian,
The reason I think Crabtree is slightly...Hi Brian,<br /><br />The reason I think Crabtree is slightly different to Curry, is that he can have a bigger impact on the offense than Curry can on defense. As a rookie he'll likely be playing from a scaled down playbook to get him on the field, a few simple routes. However, his presence on the field will draw coverage away from T.J. Houshmandzadeh, who I assume will become the team's NO.1 wideout in 2009. Crabtree will still make plays as an individual, but he takes the Seahawks passing game to another echelon.<br /><br />In 2008, teams did not fear Seattle's passing game. They played a lot of run defense and blitz, daring the quarter back to try and pass. With Crabtree, Houshmandzadeh, Carlson and Branch/Burleson, they won't be able to do that. It draws pressure away from the offensive line, leading to less blitz and the chance for the running game to excel. That creates the kind of balance Greg Knapp is looking for on offense.<br /><br />Crabtree can be an impact player not just as an individual, but also by helping other areas of the team. That's why I think if the team truly want an impact player in round one, Crabtree could be the choice.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-83796308102359476522009-04-14T09:45:00.000-07:002009-04-14T09:45:00.000-07:00Any idea what's causing all the buzz about Wells r...Any idea what's causing all the buzz about Wells rising and Brown/Orakpo falling? There seems to be no news associated with any of it. For example, Ohio State's Pro Day was several weeks ago and Wells excelled, but he was still projected as a late 1st rounder afterward. Now he's climbing up the charts for some reason. Similarly, Brown was measured short weeks ago, and was still getting projected as a top 10 pick.<br /><br />I like the Smith pick in the 2nd round, as if we're really going Tampa-two we need a guy at FS with better cover skills. I'm torn between safety and center there. We're in a tough position with Spencer - either he fails at picking up ZBS, or is injured again, and we need a new center, or he picks it up well, but then we have to extend his contract based on just one productive, healthy season. Either way, it's good to have a second option.<br /><br />I see Kropog and Freeman to the Seahawks in the 3rd round repeatedly, which of course means that neither will end up happening.Akkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16558823189806739606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-17226132959122245142009-04-14T09:39:00.000-07:002009-04-14T09:39:00.000-07:00I had thought while reading through your mock draf...I had thought while reading through your mock draft that Curry would be taken. However after reading the point made about the LB situation , the same can be said about the wideouts. I now think Sanchez will be the pick. Even if it's not the Hawks picking.Brian McNeeleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-64418558127949498312009-04-14T08:41:00.000-07:002009-04-14T08:41:00.000-07:00AK Hawk - I've not incoporated trades into any of ...AK Hawk - I've not incoporated trades into any of mocks this year. It's an interesting discussion piece though that we covered on the podcast (see articles for Sunday 12th April). I would be very surprised if the Seahawks were able to trade down from 4th overall, but stranger things have happened.<br /><br />With regards to Curry, as I said previously I don't think the Seahawks will take him because of the limitations involved with his position. We've seen that having three very good linebackers doesn't necessarily translate to a great defense (2006-2008). With Lofa Tatupu soaking up tackles through the middle and Leroy Hill also taking on a bigger role as Seattle's 'franchise' tag, I don't see how you can justify a further $60m investment at linebacker.<br /><br />For a team like Kansas City or Cleveland, Curry sets the tone. He's the guy in the middle making plays - their Lofa Tatupu so to speak. In Seattle he plays a restricted role and therefore - I think they'll look elsewhere. He'll be in their thinking, but I have reservations that he'll be Seattle's pick even if he's still on the board.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-73809904711302556192009-04-14T08:34:00.000-07:002009-04-14T08:34:00.000-07:00I have yo agree. If Curry is still on the board at...I have yo agree. If Curry is still on the board at four the Seahawks will have to take him. I do like the second and third round picks though. Fill's a need with quality players. Have you done any trading down mocks yet? Aleays interested to see who may be interested in our pick and for what.AK Hawknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-78819446930505187972009-04-14T07:39:00.000-07:002009-04-14T07:39:00.000-07:00The reason I don't think Seattle will take Curry, ...The reason I don't think Seattle will take Curry, is because there's only so much he can achieve playing in Seattle's defense. I'm not sure they'll invest $60m at the linebacker position with Lofa Tatupu soaking up tackles through the middle. Leroy Hill's production as a rookie was 7.5 sacks, he only managed 6 in the three years after they signed Julian Peterson.<br /><br />I also have a hard time believing the team, having franchised him this year, will simply draft Curry in order to release Leroy Hill next year.<br /><br />Curry might be a 'low risk' pick but I'm not sure, for Seattle anyway, that's he's the kind of 'impact' player they want. It might go against what Ruskell has done in the passed, but he's never drafted this early as GM in Seattle.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-89983076531330032042009-04-14T07:33:00.000-07:002009-04-14T07:33:00.000-07:00To add to what Arterio said, depending on how conf...To add to what Arterio said, depending on how confident they are that they'll be able to sign Hill to a long-term deal, they may feel the need to take Curry. Of course, it they do, I think it all but guarantees Hill's ticket out of town is printed. I have been thinking for a while that 2 tackles are off the board in the top 3, although I hope we're both wrong and Monroe drops to us at 4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-24842595795247483172009-04-14T07:23:00.000-07:002009-04-14T07:23:00.000-07:00Rob,
I know you really want it happen, but I have...Rob, <br />I know you really want it happen, but I have a hard time believing that Ruskell would pass up Curry and take Crabtree. It would be inconsistent with past draft decisions.Arterionoreply@blogger.com