tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post4923334735121313232..comments2024-01-31T17:34:09.607-08:00Comments on Seahawks Draft Blog: Alex Gibbs, as colorful as he is successfulRob Statonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-10829453809360887122011-09-18T00:49:23.109-07:002011-09-18T00:49:23.109-07:00For my part every person should read it.For my part every person should read it.Flashlight Vaginahttp://sexshoptienda.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-38661744845266197142011-09-17T13:35:28.862-07:002011-09-17T13:35:28.862-07:00Oh my god, there's so much effective informati...Oh my god, there's so much effective information above!Flashlight Vaginahttp://sexshoptienda.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-29719329820657944432010-03-22T14:01:35.592-07:002010-03-22T14:01:35.592-07:00Great write up Rob. I'm really liking this gu...Great write up Rob. I'm really liking this guy!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509119693332224116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-61570921201121817212010-03-22T13:07:40.473-07:002010-03-22T13:07:40.473-07:00Donald Duck,
Hard to say about Arm Length. He d...Donald Duck, <br /><br />Hard to say about Arm Length. He didn't say anything about not caring about it, so for that reason I'd assume he's the same as everyone else, the longer the arms, the better. He did specifically mention "length" in vague terms as a good thing, and also said he likes long torso players.<br /><br />I don't think every zone blocking scheme uses the same criteria. There seem to be lots of tweaked versions, kind of like how there are many tweaked versions of the west coast offense. Holmgren ran a now very rare "pure" west coast offense here, and similarly, Gibbs runs a "pure" version of his zone blocking scheme. So it could be he puts a bigger emphasis on specific size than Solari or Ruskell did.Kip Earlywinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07226256849167085207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-52019331148701593922010-03-22T12:07:02.332-07:002010-03-22T12:07:02.332-07:00No introverts? I like it but what happens if Big W...No introverts? I like it but what happens if Big Walt comes back? He seems to be the NFL poster child for introverts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-4423847561012938632010-03-22T10:44:40.781-07:002010-03-22T10:44:40.781-07:00Is arm length important to Gibbs? If so, what arm...Is arm length important to Gibbs? If so, what arm length does he want for each position and how do our linemen measure up to his standards?<br /><br />Do all zone blocking schemes use the same criteria for selection of linemen? <br /><br />Why was Unger viewed so positively last year when is his too tall for Gibbs' zone blocking scheme?<br /><br />Thanks,<br />DonaldDonald Duckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658880380859884186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-32847548292150049492010-03-22T08:19:04.433-07:002010-03-22T08:19:04.433-07:00Yes, I agree Kip. This may a bit of hyperbole, bu...Yes, I agree Kip. This may a bit of hyperbole, but this article could be one of the best pieces I've read on Seahawks football. Gibbs certainly is an interesting figure and a draft changer when it comes to lineman and running backs, and it throws a big wrench in mock drafting since we have no clue where we will draft our OL or RBs.CLantermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06447309416733687861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-16211233058440151752010-03-21T18:04:20.222-07:002010-03-21T18:04:20.222-07:00Very enlightening article,Kip. Well done.Very enlightening article,Kip. Well done.c-hawkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-7402340439529309022010-03-21T16:34:48.731-07:002010-03-21T16:34:48.731-07:00Duwarkson-I couldn't agree more with your firs...Duwarkson-I couldn't agree more with your first 3 picks. Despite the offensive needs, this draft is chock full of D-line and DB talent, and we shouldn't hesitate if they fall to us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-1788607485038121172010-03-21T16:07:49.916-07:002010-03-21T16:07:49.916-07:00Kip, great read very informative! looks like the q...Kip, great read very informative! looks like the quickies way to improve the Hawk's OL is through FA. unfortunately we did little to improve this off season. If this is the approach then I don't expect to see a RB or LT drafted early until the 4th rd. It's going to be huge gamble. But I like this approach for this draft which is deep on the defense of side. With our young LBs we can build a dominate defense. The Hawks can make the NFC West a black and blue division!! My Hawk's War-room for our first three picks 6th Gerald McCoy-DT 14th Derrick Morgan-DE 90th Chad Jones-S.DUWORKSONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00163016172684565030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-60202675460510779832010-03-21T16:03:12.363-07:002010-03-21T16:03:12.363-07:00#6 = C. J. Spiler, RB
#14= Charles Brown, OLT
#60 ...#6 = C. J. Spiler, RB<br />#14= Charles Brown, OLT<br />#60 = Morgan Burnett, S<br />#101 = Eric Decker, WR<br /><br />#124 = best available DL<br />#135 = best available CB<br />#166 = best available OG<br />#197 = best available whatever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-83112963467437616212010-03-21T15:54:23.307-07:002010-03-21T15:54:23.307-07:00Casting off talent e.g. Simms & Tapp, because ...Casting off talent e.g. Simms & Tapp, because they don't fit some coaches system is a mistake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-31590269755858518672010-03-21T15:06:39.387-07:002010-03-21T15:06:39.387-07:00This site has become one of my daily internet stop...This site has become one of my daily internet stops. (Especially when I should be doing other things.) Kip, amazing work and great insight. It's nice to know exactly what our coaches are looking for.<br /><br />I was a little put off by the no homerun comment. I understand that lo0ng runs usually boost averages and Gibbs doesnt want the average to overshadow the losses we might take. AND so many fans just look to the stat sheet to evaluate a player, but I will take a homerun run any day. I do like the no negatives strategy, some teams are willing to take a loss because their plays are high risk high reward. I feel that we understand that with a struggling team, 3rd and long seems like 3rd and the Cascade Mountains and we cannot, with our current line, allow defenses to tee off on us with crazy blitzes.<br /><br />Baluga has been on my radar for awhile , but I think he'll be a top ten pick. I hope he drops to 14, but like Kip said mocking is a junk science and we wont know until we know. Okung still seems like a possibility for us though, especially if Detroit doesn't take him. I'm not sure who else would.<br /><br />The biggest problem I think Gibbs might have with Okung is that he couldn't take him to a topless bar. I'e heard he's mighty religious :)<br /><br />TBCGriffey Mays and Largentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-9530722203196768302010-03-21T14:58:09.969-07:002010-03-21T14:58:09.969-07:00Oh yeah, regarding Alex Parsons, I have no insight...Oh yeah, regarding Alex Parsons, I have no insight to offer. But given USC's incredible depth of talent, including much hidden talent that only Carroll knows about, don't be shocked if we see 3-4 undrafted Trojans flying up to Seattle in late April.Kip Earlywinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07226256849167085207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-15133826535373436482010-03-21T13:33:58.857-07:002010-03-21T13:33:58.857-07:00Wow guys, thanks for the comments. I'm glad y...Wow guys, thanks for the comments. I'm glad you enjoyed reading it- it was a lot of fun to write. Gibbs reminds me of a 70+ year old, award winning DL coach I had in high school. The drill sergeant type kind you are absolutely terrified of, but later on you remember very fondly. Though I agree Gibbs probably won't stay in Seattle very long, he's an icon as far as I'm concerned. If he has it in him to stay 5 years somehow, that would be great for this team's future.<br /><br />I agree though, it is a little concerning if Gibbs only stays here a year or two. That's not even close to enough time.<br /><br />I'm not sure why the team is shopping Sims. He's only had a couple injuries and none of them were long term issues. He fits the size profile, and he played very well last year. It really speaks to just how picky Gibbs is, that he'd rather have (presumably) a 4th round option in this draft that slightly better fits his criteria than Sims. <br /><br />I agree about RB valuation. Mocks are junk science, but in at the ongoing Mockingthedraft 32 team fans participant mock which Clanterman participated in, both Hardesty and McKnight reached our 4th round pick. I expect us to look at RB in that range.<br /><br />Akki- I've been quiet about Okung because Kyle already scouted him and of the 3 of us here- I've seen Okung the least. However, I like Okung. Don't love him, but he'd probably be my #3 tackle right now. Just my personally, largely uninformed opinion. Oh yeah, Gibson is 6'3", and in an extremely limited sample, looked decent last year. Canfield is listed as a guard and is 6'5."<br /><br />Ben Hamilton is a possibility, but he's 32 and recently had a knee injury. He was also horrible last season, at least according to these advanced stats, ranking 79th out of 84 guards last year.<br /><br />http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=G&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1<br /><br />Hamilton could be a preseason invite with a chance to compete, but if he signs, it wouldn't lock down a position on the line.<br /><br />Kenny, I agree the guidelines are probably not as absolute as Gibbs seems to indicate with his language, since Gibbs is not actually drafting the players himself. So I do expect a tiny bit of wiggle room.<br /><br />Mitch Petrus- I'll have to preview him soon.Kip Earlywinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07226256849167085207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-90020822709124478432010-03-21T13:29:39.649-07:002010-03-21T13:29:39.649-07:00I have a feeling, especially given how long Gibbs ...I have a feeling, especially given how long Gibbs has been around that the parameters of size and such pertaining to the guys he targets is a little bit dated and NFL players get a little bigger every year.<br /><br />I think the general rule of thumb is that he's looking for smaller than average more athletic, hungry, smart guys.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855452479802633284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-81525634661716838502010-03-21T11:54:50.138-07:002010-03-21T11:54:50.138-07:00Great article!!!! How about Alex Parsons? Guard fr...Great article!!!! How about Alex Parsons? Guard from USC projected to go in rounds 5 thru 7. Quote from Draft Insider...... "Quick lineman who blocks with good fundamentals. Must improve his strength yet comes with an upside."<br />Obviously familiar with Carrol and our scheme.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-74177239024451356952010-03-21T11:32:19.347-07:002010-03-21T11:32:19.347-07:00Great article.
It shows me that the we are not in...Great article.<br /><br />It shows me that the we are not in for a quick turn around. <br /><br />If our plans are for long term success instead of a quick turn around, how does this affect our drafting?<br /><br />Again, thanks for a great article.Donald Duckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658880380859884186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-5609091481146993312010-03-21T10:50:22.178-07:002010-03-21T10:50:22.178-07:00Great follow-up to your prior article Kip. Mitch ...Great follow-up to your prior article Kip. Mitch Petrus has been on my radar for a while as a perfect ZBS guard prospect, and a probable bargain in the 3rd or 4th round because he doesn't have road grader size. I would think that exeptions to the rule include guys who were in ZBS in college. They shouldn't need 2 years on the scout team. While I'm sure there are more, USC and Florida State come to mind. Next year, Rodney Hudson, although he's not flying under the radar and probably goes late 1st or 2nd round. Still, he should be able to start as a rookie. That should apply to Brown this year as well, although I have no idea whether he fits the personality.<br /><br />I am very hopeful we sign UFA Pitts from Houston. He could step into either guard spot and be an immediate upgrade. I do wonder whether Unger indeed fits Gibbs system, and to go a step further, I'm not sure we have anyone on the current roster that does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-27520298938125329052010-03-21T10:25:27.525-07:002010-03-21T10:25:27.525-07:00but if Carroll and Gibbs stick around, look for it...but if Carroll and Gibbs stick around, look for it to be pretty much unstoppable by, say, 2015...<br />------------------------------------------------<br />Kenny nailed it just above me. Problem is Alex Gibbs is already 69 years old. Is he really gonna keep coaching for that long?Olivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-56758186013252228342010-03-21T09:41:35.771-07:002010-03-21T09:41:35.771-07:00Great article Kip.
Alex Gibbs may prefer max hei...Great article Kip. <br /><br />Alex Gibbs may prefer max heights, however there are exceptions to that rule, here are just a few:<br />-- OG Chester Pits 6'4" (> 6'3")<br />-- OC Chris Myers 6'4" (> 6'3")<br />-- OG Ben Hamilton 6'4" (> 6'3")<br />-- OT Ephraim Salaam 6'7" (>6'5.5")<br /><br />The downside of Alex Gibbs is he's 69 years old and doesn't seem to stay with the same team for more than a year. That doesn't seem like enough time for a young line to gel together.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11485483499247503484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-92056120480106206332010-03-21T08:11:19.935-07:002010-03-21T08:11:19.935-07:00Awesome read great find. I'm a little bit of a...Awesome read great find. I'm a little bit of a skeptic still about zone blocking forcing you away from good players. Iupita fits the tackle description set here. I agree with what Holmgren said about the run game, running for a bunch of yards doesn't matter so much its can you get 3rd and short with 8 in the box.<br /> I'm wondering what the short yardage conversion ratio is zone vs man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-28114042010989836322010-03-21T07:57:09.095-07:002010-03-21T07:57:09.095-07:00If we are to believe that Gibbs will hold true to ...If we are to believe that Gibbs will hold true to these guidelines, then I am really scared for next season. (though excited for the future)<br /><br />So who exactly is going to start? If Sims gets traded and we don't draft a guard who can start, who is actually going to play? Obviously we're going to be needing to bring some FA's in, but if that's the case, why didn't we go after Ryan Lilja? By Gibbs' criteria, he should have been a near perfect fit.<br /><br />Sould be really interesting to see how the line looks and performs next season. That's for sure.<br /><br />cyscocysconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-20213150240016547892010-03-21T07:54:56.848-07:002010-03-21T07:54:56.848-07:00Wow, this is a big nugget Kip!
I had no idea what...Wow, this is a big nugget Kip!<br /><br />I had no idea what Alex Gibbs looked like, I always assumed he was Joe Gibbs kid or something. I googled it and I guess they're not related at all. Makes sense, I don't think Joe would be caught anywhere near a strip club let alone take his players to one =)<br /><br />I love the approach of redshirting guys to learn the scheme before they see any playing time BUT this is increasingly difficult to pull off in the NFL and this team and the O line are in terrible shape so I would think the guys they draft will have to be fast tracked to starting in the first year or two which would lead to using an earlier pick on a tackle like Brown.<br />There has been little to no action from the Hawks in free agency in regard to the O line. Ben Hamilton apparently hasn't even visited yet and the team has told Rob Sims not to attend workouts as they're trying to trade him, one way or the other he's not in their plans.<br /><br />Maybe they're playing coy and they know the veteran ZBS guys they want can be had any time and they don't want to tip their hand before the draft. <br /><br />Or maybe they think Mansfield Wrotto and Mike Gibson are gold.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855452479802633284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-40118530776529471252010-03-21T07:46:17.000-07:002010-03-21T07:46:17.000-07:00Great article. Thanks.Great article. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com