tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post5514342514751737342..comments2024-01-31T17:34:09.607-08:00Comments on Seahawks Draft Blog: Updated two-round mock draft: 6th AprilRob Statonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-14176807490337133612010-04-08T09:55:08.789-07:002010-04-08T09:55:08.789-07:00Mike - I think it's way too early for Shipley....Mike - I think it's way too early for Shipley. He'll be there in round three for sure. If they value corner as a need, they have to dip into round two with one of those picks. There will be a huge rush on corners between 20-45. Not many options after round two.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-4602262790372422022010-04-08T08:19:44.265-07:002010-04-08T08:19:44.265-07:00Actually, the Bucs went to see Spievey but I think...Actually, the Bucs went to see Spievey but I think this is too high for him.If Saffold were there at 42 they'd take him.Or Jordan Shipley.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08391319602253458938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-8795095534360309652010-04-08T08:16:30.009-07:002010-04-08T08:16:30.009-07:00Steve - I've been up front that when I watched...Steve - I've been up front that when I watched Williams he seemed clumsy, struggling to adjust to the blind side and I was unimpressed. It was a shock to me, and many others I imagine, when he turned up at Indianapolis and ran such a good forty time and in all fairness - did a great overall work out. I'm still not convinced he's a great fit at left tackle, let alone in any scheme. He has power, he looked bigger during the season than he did in Indy. I don't think he coped well against standard outside rushers - not elite college guys. But it's up to me to do research again and hit the tape which I will do on Williams. But alas, this isn't me making the pick and if Alex Gibbs thinks he's good enough for Seattle my opinion is redundant.<br /><br />I think everyone knows I wouldn't take Berry 6th overall. Again, though, it's not my choice. I said early on that I didn't think #6 was a great place to be because the difference in talent isnt much different at #20.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-67624684966849226582010-04-08T06:35:50.151-07:002010-04-08T06:35:50.151-07:00From a Mel Kiper conference call yesterday:
&quo...From a Mel Kiper conference call yesterday: <br /><br />"Kiper said that Georgia Tech safety Morgan Burnett likely to go to Seahawks in the second round."<br /><br />http://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/11764104413Steve in Spainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-2236428551164887162010-04-08T01:35:02.684-07:002010-04-08T01:35:02.684-07:00Rob, I'm having a tough time buying the Willia...Rob, I'm having a tough time buying the Williams chatter. A few months ago you wrote that Trent Williams was a poor fit for the ZBS:<br /><br />"I also kept an eye on OU left tackle Trent Williams... before he also went off injured. He's not a good match for Seattle's zone blocking scheme and I think it's fair to write him off any wish list. He looks very heavy, his footwork is poor and he relies on his superior size in protection. He will have some value to teams who favor bigger blockers but Seattle want nimble, athletic guys. That isn't Williams. I have to believe he's better suited to playing right tackle in the pro's if not guard. His run blocking looked quite good." <br />http://seahawksdraft.blogspot.com/2009/10/draft-thoughts-on-oklahoma-vs-texas.html<br /><br />As for Eric Berry, he's a great player for sure and I can buy the Kiffin connection. But Berry at 6 is tough to swallow economically. Rob Rang pointed out that if you draft Eric Berry at 6 he'll be making more than the franchise tag value for a safety. That's why economics dictates drafting QB, OT, or DL early.<br /><br />I'm also a little suspicious because Williams (and to a slightly lesser extent Berry) are being tied to Seattle in a lot of different places and I can't figure it out. In the past, smokescreens have been built on specific quotes by prominent front-office guys (for example, when Holmgren flatout lied to Dr. Z about the Seahawks disinterest in Jerramy Stevens), or through fake-out visits or scouting. Perhaps the Seahawks are using a "viral marketing" type guerrilla disinformation campaign? People have got really sophisticated about manipulating internet discussion forums to build buzz and plant messages. I can't believe somebody out there isn't using these well-tested techniques to manipulate the draft. Just a paranoid thought...Steve in Spainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-53043337606109041372010-04-08T01:28:05.535-07:002010-04-08T01:28:05.535-07:00Why is Bulaga definitely a top ten pick? He's ...Why is Bulaga definitely a top ten pick? He's a short armed tackle that hasn't got much upside as a blind side blocker. He might be exclusively a right tackle at the next level. I believe Mel Kiper has him going to SF. Charlie Casserly has voiced serious concerns that Bulaga is being over rated in a lot of places. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he falls to #17. I remember a few mocks being absolutely sure Jimmy Clausen was going first overall. For weeks people have been saying Okung was a can't miss prospect and now they're saying he won't be the first tackle taken.<br /><br />With regard to McClain, he's better than most people are saying, he fills a big need and how many people expected KC to draft Tyson Jackson last year? They'll improve their team according to their board and scheme.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-89848204192233412842010-04-08T00:55:57.270-07:002010-04-08T00:55:57.270-07:00how can anyone take your mock seriously when you h...how can anyone take your mock seriously when you have bulaga going 17, when he's definitely going top 10, probably 5. come on, you have to do better than this. mcclain going 5??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-65887399288734624862010-04-07T22:57:10.307-07:002010-04-07T22:57:10.307-07:00Rumor has it Cincy wants Pierre-Paul. If he is aro...Rumor has it Cincy wants Pierre-Paul. If he is around at 14 we may be in business.micahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01954646535059983734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-68671089038240094592010-04-07T15:17:20.362-07:002010-04-07T15:17:20.362-07:00I expect Buffalo to draft a QB, just not Clausen. ...I expect Buffalo to draft a QB, just not Clausen. Chan Gailey experimented a lot with the spread at KC with Tyler Thigpen. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they make a bold move for Tebow. They have other options, they might trade for Thigpen if it doesn't work out. Buffalo might trade back into R1 to get Tebow.<br /><br />Cincy - I can't see why they'd make a trade up but I wouldn't rule it out. New England hardly ever trade up. They get full use of their draft picks - more likely to move down.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-50361978116862258502010-04-07T15:12:43.720-07:002010-04-07T15:12:43.720-07:00I don't think the Bills are standing pat with ...I don't think the Bills are standing pat with their 3 QBs, and do think they will draft a QB with either their first pick, or pick 41.<br /><br />Any ideas on whether cincinnati or NE would want to trade up?micahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01954646535059983734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-29643915873826433212010-04-07T14:30:47.792-07:002010-04-07T14:30:47.792-07:00Micah - I can't see the Bills/Clausen fit. I d...Micah - I can't see the Bills/Clausen fit. I don't think it will happen. I also want to temper that the Philly thing is just something someone thought up on Bleacher Report. It's not a legitimate rumor.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-13624739508432719542010-04-07T14:10:24.813-07:002010-04-07T14:10:24.813-07:00Hey did you see on Bleacher Report that Mel Kiper ...Hey did you see on Bleacher Report that Mel Kiper says that it is almost a lock that the Seahawks won't take Clausen. My prayers have been answered. The only thing that I can see that would make me happy is some way some how McCoy falls to us at 6 if that doesn't happen tread down and get as many picks as you can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-6505233647411050812010-04-07T13:07:33.426-07:002010-04-07T13:07:33.426-07:00I like Crezdon Butler CB from Clemson late or as a...I like Crezdon Butler CB from Clemson late or as a udfa.micahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01954646535059983734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-36298098597919238792010-04-07T13:05:49.094-07:002010-04-07T13:05:49.094-07:00I don't think we need to get a DE, necessarily...I don't think we need to get a DE, necessarily. If we plan on getting someone like Geno Atkins or Lamarr Houston they can play some end, with Curry playing up on the line like a DE.<br /><br />I especially like Lamarr Houston.micahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01954646535059983734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-40132086115890996062010-04-07T12:51:21.552-07:002010-04-07T12:51:21.552-07:00I think the Bills may want Clausen, if they don...I think the Bills may want Clausen, if they don't want Jason Campbell. I would trade our 6 and our 2011 2nd rounder for 9 and 41. The trade is equal value on the points chart. 41 would then be traded with one of our 5th rounders for Marshall.<br /><br />Any word if the Bengals or Patriots would want to move up? They would be ideal trade partners to move down with our 14 and still get Charles Brown. Green Bay might take Brown at 23, as they employ a ZBS. I'd consider it fair for 3rd rounder added in.<br /><br />If Eagles rumor has legs, I'd eschew the 3rd rounder for a 2nd rounder in 2011. Two 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder should be enough to move up for Locker.<br /><br />I'd be happy with 21 and 24 in this draft.<br /><br />My preferred draft:<br />Rd. 1 6 and 2011 2nd Rounder traded to Buffalo for pick 9 and pick 41 (2nd round<br />Rd. 1 9 CJ Spiller RB<br />Rd. 1 14 traded to Cincinatti for pick 21 and pick 85 (3rd round)<br />Rd. 1 21 Charles Brown LT (USC)<br />Rd. 2 41 traded to Denver Broncos along with pick 105 for Brandon Marshall<br />Rd. 2 60 Lamarr Houston or Geno Atkins DT<br />Rd. 3 85 Kevin Thomas CB (USC)or Riley Cooper WR <br />Rd. 4 128 Mitch Petrus or Mike Johnson OG, Daniel Te'o-Nesheim DE<br />Rd. 5 133 Myron Lewis FS<br />Rd. 5 140 Nick Howell OG (USC)<br />Rd. 6 177 Nolan Carroll CB or Harry Coleman SS<br />Rd. 7 214 Chris Brown RB<br />Rd. 7 246 Kenny Alfred Cmicahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01954646535059983734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-12976075499963849152010-04-07T12:19:44.051-07:002010-04-07T12:19:44.051-07:00Frankfrog - I don't agree that in anything lik...Frankfrog - I don't agree that in anything like a league wide agreement on a prospect. For me, there's no reason why Russell Okung and Bryan Bulaga should be top ten locks as a lot of people think and not Davis. It only takes one team to rate one guy above another. I accept that nobody else is calling Davis to Washington. I'll either be proven completely wrong (and I'll be happy to admit so and hold my hands up) or there's going to be a surprise.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-27154829059892934202010-04-07T10:56:40.143-07:002010-04-07T10:56:40.143-07:00Some interesting stuff with this weeks mock. I lik...Some interesting stuff with this weeks mock. I like that you mix it up Rob. The fact is that anything can happen and so often you see mocks that rarely change which takes the fun out of the discussion. <br /><br />So, the Eagles rumor is intriguing. I don't really think they'd give up all of those picks for Berry. Maybe 24, 37, and something later or a player but tossing in the #70 seems like a lot in a pretty deep draft. I could be wrong though and I'd love if it worked out that way because we have so many needs and even if some of these guys bust, some of them will stick.<br /><br />I think Jahvid Best would be an incredible steal at #60 and would be very happy if we got him. Concussions are a big concern but how often do you see a guy retire in their early 20's due to a concussion? Personally I don't think Best will fall this far and if he does we must grab him. <br /><br />Joe Haden while he would be a welcome addition does not seem like the best option for us right now. Hopefully that pick becomes multiple picks later in the draft and it's a moot point. <br /><br />Trent Williams is concerning to me. His athleticism at the combine did not seem to translate onto the field. Before the combine wasn't everyone saying that he was a right tackle because he was not a very good pass blocker? This to me sounds like a slightly better Bruce Campbell and I think we can do much better at #6. I'm not one to question professional football scouts but I would be very skeptical of this pick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-34183168091494068582010-04-07T10:19:43.507-07:002010-04-07T10:19:43.507-07:00While I understand the selection of Trent Williams...While I understand the selection of Trent Williams at #6 I'm not really high on him. From what I saw of him this past year he does not warrant a top-10 selection, but he had a great combine which seemed to really elevate his stock. <br /><br />I too think Anthony Davis is the best LT in the draft, especially for zone blocking teams. The biggest knock on him seems to be that he is immature, but he is only 20 year old guy, so I am not overlly concerned about it. <br /><br />At #14 I would prefer S Earl Thomas over CB Joe Hayden. I'm not worried that Thomas is 5-11 205 lbs, some of the top playmaking safeties in the NFL are around his size. Thomas was a big time playmaker and had a better year than Eric Berry.1stHillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17485753987930275932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-57404642789753922712010-04-07T10:11:02.737-07:002010-04-07T10:11:02.737-07:00Within this scenario, what about Morgan at 6 and B...Within this scenario, what about Morgan at 6 and Brown at 14? Wouldn't that be better 1st round value (at least in your eyes)? Hopefully we'll be able to package the 60th plus a future pick for Marshall- I guess we'll see how desperate Denver is to get rid of the guy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11117444428012643446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-36858972582254756902010-04-07T09:38:50.856-07:002010-04-07T09:38:50.856-07:00Savage,
#15- Brown or Bulaga
#34- Brandon Marshall...Savage,<br />#15- Brown or Bulaga<br />#34- Brandon Marshall<br />#46- Brian Price<br />#60 Best<br /><br />If this happened AND we had the Lion's first round pick next year, I'd crap bricks. Even if we had the Lion's second round pick I'd be happy.<br /><br />The more I think about it, the more I think we should trade down for both #6 and #14. 14 actually is not quite as important to trade down because I think a Haden/Morgan/Thomas type will be there.CLantermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06447309416733687861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-26289073035645419802010-04-07T08:38:23.964-07:002010-04-07T08:38:23.964-07:00Well Rob if you have the avalibilty of players rig...Well Rob if you have the avalibilty of players right, I would look <br />#6 Okung He'll never be there.<br />#14 Morgan or JPP, hopefully Morgan<br />#60 Gerhart or Tate, good tag team with Forsett.<br /> I don't see Iupati sliding out of round one Arizona at #26 wants to pound the ball without Warner. <br /> Ryan Matthews is underrated here as he can carry a large workload. with so many teams with young QBs he'll go a little earlier like #40 Chargers.<br /> I'd love to see Best off the board and Ben Tate still on it at #60.<br /> Their is a league wide agreement Davis is not a top ten pick.<br /> Nice work on the Mock Draft I dont agree with most of it just because I think you miss on 1-2-4 and that changes the whole board. although most guy's are right around where everone else has them.<br /> I still think trading Tapp sealed our fate for a first round DE. Any thoughts Rob?Frankfroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17062161507777281528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-54802802494153176992010-04-07T05:44:13.309-07:002010-04-07T05:44:13.309-07:00Hamish - I see three Patriots picks in round two.Hamish - I see three Patriots picks in round two.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-66443531943547046502010-04-07T02:25:53.284-07:002010-04-07T02:25:53.284-07:00you do realize that your missing the patriots thir...you do realize that your missing the patriots third 2nd round pick, i believe it is the titans original pickAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07558104532284176508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-14275610960244133512010-04-07T02:08:03.573-07:002010-04-07T02:08:03.573-07:00Interesting, the buzz seems to be building, from M...Interesting, the buzz seems to be building, from Matt McGuire's latest Mock:<br /><br />"6. Seattle Seahawks: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee<br />Trent Williams or Eric Berry? Eric Berry or Trent Williams? I really feel if the 2010 NFL Draft plays out like I expect it to now, that these are the only two options for Seattle here. ...<br />Trent Williams is VERY much in play here too and I could see them wanting to add a left tackle. You might as well flip a coin."<br /><br />http://walterfootball.com/draft2010matt.phpSteve in Spainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-3382527467016769992010-04-07T01:48:39.891-07:002010-04-07T01:48:39.891-07:00Ivotuk - all I can do is give my honest opinion. D...Ivotuk - all I can do is give my honest opinion. Davis pro-day, from what I heard, went smoothly when he actually worked out. The issue was he didn't work out at the original date and didn't tell anyone. However, he did everything at the combine. Despite Andre Smith's disaster of an off season last year, he went 6th overall. It only takes one team to fall in love with a guy. I think Washington could do that with Davis. Now - I'm willing to be proven wrong. But Shanahan knows offensive lineman and I just can't see Okung going there. For all Davis' issues, I think he's miles better than Okung. Heck, the Skins could take Trent Williams there. But I don't think OKung is a lock. A lot of people thought Eugene Monroe would go 3rd overall last year, but he went 8th and was the third tackle taken. It could happen with Okung.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.com