tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post709888750303875600..comments2024-01-31T17:34:09.607-08:00Comments on Seahawks Draft Blog: Updated two-round mock draft: 17th FebruaryRob Statonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-59366366080999739232010-03-12T16:00:09.885-08:002010-03-12T16:00:09.885-08:00You have really great taste on catch article title...You have really great taste on catch article titles, even when you are not interested in this topic you push to read itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-38823681204515856722010-02-21T10:16:02.110-08:002010-02-21T10:16:02.110-08:00I really hope the Hawks don't take two skill p...I really hope the Hawks don't take two skill position players like Clausen and Bryant with there first two picks. They would be much better off in the long run by building from the inside-out and taking the best OT and DE with their first two picks. We have seen over the last couple of seasons that young QB's can succeed in this league with a good foundation around them (ie Roslisburger, Flacco, Sanchez). The Hawks need a lot of help on their OL and need a pass rush desperately. We know Hass will be the starter this season and this team has so many wholes to fill that I think we need to put impact starters on the field this year. By letting the young, every-down lineman develop for a year and drafting a QB next year I think you give that QB (and the team) more of an opportunity to succeed this year and down the road. Drafting a QB with #6 (or #14) to ride the pine this year and WR to rotate in and out-I think this season would be another disappointing one because they would have minimal impact on the field this year. I wouldn't mind taking one skill position player and one lineman with the first two picks. Please, just not two.Christon Petersennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-11395564083762596892010-02-19T13:18:06.318-08:002010-02-19T13:18:06.318-08:00Sorry Brendan, I meant if Clausen were successful ...Sorry Brendan, I meant if Clausen were successful he'd be Brandon Roy. Obviously he could be not as talented, and it's always tough to tell if a player can make the leap from college to the professional level because it's not the same game, the guys are bigger, stronger, faster, and smarter than before.CLantermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06447309416733687861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-89117239057911040982010-02-19T11:50:04.457-08:002010-02-19T11:50:04.457-08:00Just to throw this out there though - if the Rams ...Just to throw this out there though - if the Rams take Vick it might be to get a starter in year one so they don't have to throw a guy like Bradford to the Wolves. He could be a short term stop gap measure. It makes Suh/McCoy more likely, but it doesn't rule out Bradford/Clausen.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-81442371327635509182010-02-19T10:57:17.799-08:002010-02-19T10:57:17.799-08:00There are no sure thing, 100% can't miss QB pr...There are no sure thing, 100% can't miss QB prospects in this draft. (same can be said for last year's draft or next year's) I've read a couple articles that consider Clausen a better prospect than Stafford or Sanchez were last year and that if the combo of Stafford/Clausen/Sanchez/Bradford were in the same draft class, that Clausen would be the first or second QB taken.<br /><br />I think most writers believe that Clausen has a high probability of being an average-above average QB in this league and a small chance of being great-elite. Most believe he has a pretty low probability of being below average. <br /><br />Personally, I'd welcome a Flaco/Ryan QB with a small chance of Brees/Rivers.<br /><br />Is there a chance he's the next Rick Mirer? Sure. We'll have to leave it up to the FO to determine how big that chance is.<br /><br />Seems like a lot of rumors out there that the Rams are going to get themselves some Mike Vick. That leave the Redskins to pick either Bradford or Clausen. Most mocks have them taking Bradford. If the Hawks want him, it's looking like Clausen could very well be there.<br /><br />-=cyscoCysconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-62838449024578919642010-02-19T10:03:22.566-08:002010-02-19T10:03:22.566-08:00Roy is a top ten player in the NBA no question. Th...Roy is a top ten player in the NBA no question. That is very high praise of Clausen - I am going to have to re-evaluate him due to this thread... Maybe I am wrong? (If we draft I really hope that I am wrong and u guys are right)Brendanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353126701852958359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-1292896849844282212010-02-19T09:43:37.630-08:002010-02-19T09:43:37.630-08:00Brandon Roy!!!!????? Man I hope you guys are right...Brandon Roy!!!!????? Man I hope you guys are right. Brandon Roy is by far one of the best players in basketball and consistently underrated. Wow brandon roy? really? Brandon Roy is a natural born leader who makes every single player on his team better. He is a pillar of the community in Seattle and Portland and an all around great guy. His character is through the roof, his basketball skills are some of the best in the league and his leadership skills are great. If Clausen is half the leader Brandon Roy or has half the balls that Brandon Roy has I would take him at 6 in a heart beat. Brandon Roy is a great, great all around player.Brendanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353126701852958359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-10583451337235739162010-02-19T08:50:35.169-08:002010-02-19T08:50:35.169-08:00I think that's a very accurate review, CLanter...I think that's a very accurate review, CLanterman.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-43758322515550733742010-02-19T08:30:03.212-08:002010-02-19T08:30:03.212-08:00Clausen can't be LeBron James. LeBron is poss...Clausen can't be LeBron James. LeBron is possibly the most athletic player ever to play in the NBA. Clausen is not a physical marvel. If Clausen were an NBA player I'd compare him to Brandon Roy. Not jaw dropping athleticism, but good enough. Good knowledge and feel for the game, does most things pretty well, but nothing excellent.CLantermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06447309416733687861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-45283185295556072312010-02-19T01:17:05.324-08:002010-02-19T01:17:05.324-08:00Thanks for the kind words, Terry. It'd certain...Thanks for the kind words, Terry. It'd certainly tie up the offense long term and I think you could get some use out of Bryant and Brown in year one. Clausen may never be the superstar that James is to the NBA, but if he can make an offense tick - that's all that matters. I think he can offer that Romo/Rivers type of performance to a team.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-41839177261537809972010-02-18T22:25:42.892-08:002010-02-18T22:25:42.892-08:00Rob- I love your mock- If we really want a QB for ...Rob- I love your mock- If we really want a QB for the next ten years then we may not have this chance again (#6) for years.. (assuming improvement) I hear that the big QB Guru says Clausen is going to be to football what LeBron James is to basketball, so what's not to like ??<br /> And a real big-play threat at wide receiver and a Decent LT to protect our QB- That would be great..And if what they say about Gibbs is true, he will get us great value in lower rounds for RB and OL guys..For me, this draft would be a home-run and (for once) really address our biggest needs with high picks-I love it-nice jobUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04336256775574501594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-79090968754346898732010-02-18T22:13:56.232-08:002010-02-18T22:13:56.232-08:00It's all good.It's all good.Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18228558646303089529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-37657102447841278522010-02-18T20:51:51.745-08:002010-02-18T20:51:51.745-08:00Sorry Morgan, that was for Phil. I probably had j...Sorry Morgan, that was for Phil. I probably had just finished reading your post. My Bad.Jony-bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831175556476771772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-40798998009648749372010-02-18T20:22:54.727-08:002010-02-18T20:22:54.727-08:00Jony-B, i appreciate your post about where are all...Jony-B, i appreciate your post about where are all the playmakers...but I don't recall ever talking about playmakers. You may have been referring to another post, as I only spoke of quarterbacks.Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18228558646303089529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-40809620528024463012010-02-18T19:38:36.789-08:002010-02-18T19:38:36.789-08:00Just to be clear, my comment about being 2-3 wins ...Just to be clear, my comment about being 2-3 wins better next year was only to make my point that we will be drafting lower next season, thus not in the running for a elite qb option next draft.<br />By no means are any of us happy with 8-8, but it's a start in the right direction. <br /><br />At some point down the road we are going to need a new QB. (that some day is likely the 2011 season) If you don't get your QB of the future this year, then you better prey for the strongest QB class ever next season or that we get lucky and someone falls to us next draft. Odds are, someone other than Hass will be this team's starting QB in two years. The team needs to be aware of this and have a plan.<br /><br />Like I've said, I'm no expert, but if the front office thinks Clausen can run a pro team, they have to take a real serious look at him. <br /><br />-=cyscoCysconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-51747090455688134802010-02-18T19:21:31.503-08:002010-02-18T19:21:31.503-08:00Thanks for the reply - here are my thoughts.
Whe...Thanks for the reply - here are my thoughts. <br /><br />Where as I do agree with alot of what you are saying - I kind of think that we should comapare for example across the board against say Arizona.<br /><br />Offensively - I think that zona is better than us at every position except QB and TE. Am I wrong?Brendanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353126701852958359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-16371331955095355502010-02-18T18:49:47.830-08:002010-02-18T18:49:47.830-08:00OK I am going to give Brendan part of an answer to...OK I am going to give Brendan part of an answer to his question.<br /><br />1)We are better than about six teams in my opinion.<br /><br />2) I am going to give you the positions that do not need to be upgraded first.<br />Defense<br />Wherever Brandon Mebane is in the middle will be good.<br />Linebackers are strong all around.<br />I believe tru will return to form at Corner.<br />Kerney is good when Healthy but is getting old. Overall DE is pretty good (not great) with the current rotation but needs big help from the other DT not named Mebane.<br />I Like Wilson and think he can continue with help from the rest of the D<br />Deon Grant is good but getting old<br /><br />Offense<br />Forsett needs help but should stay as a big part.<br />Center is going to be good with Unger.<br />Hass has a few years if he has good protection.<br />One Gaurd and One Tackle aquisition would allow for a battle for the other starting jobs on the right side which would be great.<br />WR 2 is set with Housh<br />WR 3 Has two Deon's that are adequate<br />TE is just were it should be with our incoming 3rd year Carlson<br /><br />3)Big time needs and fast.<br />Defense<br />A DT that can push the pocket will free up our good but not great DEs to get after the QB<br />A Safety that can play football that will not retire in the next couple years.<br /><br />Offense<br />OT<br />WR1<br />RB to help J Force<br />OG is the meat that would complete the process of competition that is needed to upgrade the entire line.<br /><br /><br />4)<br />Could be upgraded some or in the near future if all of the above needs are met this off season<br />Defense<br />CB opposite Tru<br />DE<br /><br />Offense<br />QB <br /><br /><br /><br />I agree we are not great and have a lot of needs that must be met this year or we will be looking at another 6 or less win season.Jony-bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831175556476771772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-68006968445716520442010-02-18T18:12:16.486-08:002010-02-18T18:12:16.486-08:00Hey Lenny,
I want prow bowlers also. And again I ...Hey Lenny,<br />I want prow bowlers also. And again I just took a little time to look it up, I believe five rookies went to the pro bowl last year. Orakpo and Cushing from before pick #20. Matthews and Byrd between picks 20 and 50. And Of course you have Knox from the fifth round. <br />I realize that top picks are fun, and exciting, but If you have smart analysts and drafters, you can pick up big time players any time in the draft.<br />Our beloved Hawthorne was not even drafted two years ago. He was not a prow bowler but he played well enough to be if he had help and played the whole season as the starter. I like Lofa so don't think Im saying anything about him but Those who did not draft Hawthorne saw some things they wish they had seen before his entrance into the pros. <br />I don't agree with trading back if the guy you want is there, but if there are 6 guys that fit a need and none is completely dominant to the others why not trade back pick up an exptra pick and get one of them 6 or so picks latter.Jony-bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08831175556476771772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-83632723757358621332010-02-18T18:10:46.645-08:002010-02-18T18:10:46.645-08:00First off - great thread I think that almost all t...First off - great thread I think that almost all these posts have great points. The funny thing about it is that everyone could be right but the most important thing to remember is that this is a game of probabilities and we have to go with the option that gives us the greatest chance at WINNING THE SUPER BOWL. Agreed that Clausen may make the team better now but I just don't see how the Seahawks can make the jump from mediocrity to the elite with this type of draft. Obviously, I could be wrong.<br /><br />"However, setting a goal of adding 2-3 wins onto last year's total should be realistic" - cysco<br /><br />Yeah maybe but does that ever get us to a super bowl?<br /><br />Another thing that I think is important that I think alot of us differ on is how good the Seahawks are right now. <br /><br />MAN v MAN how many teams do you think the Seahawks are better than? Across the board go position by position and compare the teams.<br /><br />In my opinion we are not a qb or a player here a player there away from being good and especially not close to elite. We need youth, depth and potential. <br /><br />I want a super bowl not a 8-8 football team (8 wins? who can the seahawks beat? Don't want to sound down and this is up for debate I really want to know who people think man v man we are better than? even add in the draft picks if u want)Brendanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353126701852958359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-9075141364359961172010-02-18T17:08:10.123-08:002010-02-18T17:08:10.123-08:00Mike - obviously it'd be tough to guess where ...Mike - obviously it'd be tough to guess where Clausen would be in a years time. Had he enjoyed a stella year statistically in 2010 like he did this previous season - there's every chance people would be talking about him as the obvious choice to go #1. When I watch Ryan Mallet - I think he's physically what you want from a quarterback - great arm, great size and throws the ball from a tremendous height. I think he's more accurate than people give him credit for and should be better from a year's seasoning, but as with all QB's with a huge arm he needs to learn touch.<br /><br />Locker I've seen very little of. Again very good physically and if he continues to develop he'll be a legitimate high pick. Really you're looking at two physical prospects with big upside but an element of risk against a guy who isn't 'special' in terms of potential, but could be better at getting the job done. Some teams will value that over potential.<br /><br />So to answer your question, he may well be the #3 guy in 2011. But in this year's class, he might be the best option available. Seattle cant afford to wait forever for the perfect QB. That doesn't mean you settle for less, but it does mean you access Clausen and ask 'can he be a franchise QB who wins games for this team?'. If the answer is yes, he warrants very serious consideration at #6.<br /><br />Lenny - I like JPP and believe he has huge upside. There's a big risk element because he's a one year wonder who has only recently committed to football. However, I watch him and see flashes of Demarcus Ware. Undoubtedly he needs the right kind of coach early in his NFL career to max out the talent. I doubt he'll respond to a Tom Coughlin type. I think with a team like Oakland he might drift into their culture of mediocrity and lose any kind of drive. Pete Carroll might be the perfect coach for JPP - someone who can put an arm round him, use what he does well now (pass rush off the edge) and work on the other stuff a stage at a time. I think Carroll likewise would love a challenge like that.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-67012157696553834692010-02-18T16:19:52.627-08:002010-02-18T16:19:52.627-08:00Hey Rob, I like the Bryant pick at 14. A few moc...Hey Rob, I like the Bryant pick at 14. A few mocks ago I didnt like the idea of picking JPP at 6. However, I have since changed my postition. We absoultely need a better pass rush. We have to pick JPP at 6 because after the combine, no way he's there at 14. He is a far better athlete than Derrick Morgan. JPP is just as good as Morgan with less playing experience. I dont see Morgan getting to much better, where JPP is nowhere near his potential. JPP would be worth the #6 money.<br />With Kerney returning next season he would be his perfect successor. JPP could come and specialize in pass rushing situations while he learns from a great DE in P. Kerney. With the edge rush of Kerney, JPP, and Tapp rotating and the LB core of Curry, Tutupu, Hawthrone, Hill. The front seven possibilities could make any Corner look good. We could even add a corner or safety in the later rounds of the draft. I would be against trading down. We need Pro Bowlers not a bunch of average starters. I'm Officially a JPP fan. If we can somehow get back into the third round here would be the best draft scenario for the Hawks<br /><br />6. JPP<br />14. Bryant/ Spiller <br />40 BPA O Line.<br />3rd BPA QB ( Maybe LeFevour or Tebow)or BPA DT<br />4th BPA RB<br />5th BPA DB<br />6th BPA O Line<br />7th BPA O line<br /><br />Rob, What do you think?Lenny Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-79293353952905612552010-02-18T15:43:15.223-08:002010-02-18T15:43:15.223-08:00The assumption seems to be that the top two qb'...The assumption seems to be that the top two qb's are franchise quarterbacks and after that the talent falls off a cliff.<br /><br />However it could very well be that this whole qb class resides at the bottom of the cliff. Or there might be a Tom Bradey type cliff dweller.<br /><br />Just a hunch but the teams who pick these two might be in for a disapointment.<br /><br />And the hype goes on.<br /><br />Kudo's to all - good thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-66303067489496653272010-02-18T14:56:57.145-08:002010-02-18T14:56:57.145-08:00Cysco,
Because I don't want to pay #6 money to...Cysco,<br />Because I don't want to pay #6 money to a guy who really should be drafted around #20. QB is not a strength of the draft class. I personnally think we should trade #6 and #14 if possible and stockpile 1-3 round picks even if they are next years picks. Turning our 3 picks in the 1-3 rounds into 5 or 6 picks is doable. You just have to find a buyer, thats the tricky part.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01186288445120199389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-69530739611679848332010-02-18T14:53:18.017-08:002010-02-18T14:53:18.017-08:00My hope, and I'm sure it's the goal of the...My hope, and I'm sure it's the goal of the organization, is to try to improve on last year's performance. Obviously, the playoffs are out of the question unless lightning strikes. However, setting a goal of adding 2-3 wins onto last year's total should be realistic. <br /><br />Achieving that goal means we are likely drafting around the 12-17 range depending on how things pan out. That makes us a legitimate middle of the pack kinda team. <br /><br />In that range, any "stud" QB next year is already gone. In all likelihood we'd be looking at the #4 rated QB next year. <br /><br />If Clausen is equal to next year's #4 QB, then why wouldn't we want that #4-rated QB this year to sit and learn from Hass so that the following year, he's ready to go?<br /><br />Of course, if you believe that Clausen just isn't starting NFL QB material, then the decision is an easy one to make. However, if the organization believes Clausen can be a solid QB, I think it makes a lot of sense to get him this year in preparation of Hass leaving/retiring.<br /><br />If the organization feels Clause is not the guy, I would be turning over every rock trying to trade down too. I agree with you there 100%. If there isn't a legit QB at #6 I don't see anyone else on the board is is worth that money. <br /><br />Great thread everyone!<br /><br />-=cyscocysconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-26695252541249389562010-02-18T14:39:59.794-08:002010-02-18T14:39:59.794-08:00Lafeuvor also never played against a defense below...Lafeuvor also never played against a defense below rank 40... unless you count the game versus U of A where he didn't perform too well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com