tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post8870434239576307244..comments2024-01-31T17:34:09.607-08:00Comments on Seahawks Draft Blog: Seattle to trade down with Redskins?Rob Statonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-13296374108112514822011-10-08T14:39:04.790-07:002011-10-08T14:39:04.790-07:00Thank you for this post, really worthwhile info.Thank you for this post, really worthwhile info.www.ciudad-real-3d.comhttp://www.ciudad-real-3d.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-18665130563175741402011-08-07T13:17:37.751-07:002011-08-07T13:17:37.751-07:00It cannot really have success, I suppose so.It cannot really have success, I suppose so.www.encontactos.comhttp://www.encontactos.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-85567487365692257182009-04-24T11:46:00.000-07:002009-04-24T11:46:00.000-07:00I think if washington tries to trade over Seattle ...I think if washington tries to trade over Seattle for Sanchez that also plays into Seattles hands as that might drop Curry into Seattles lap and could drop Smith into Seattle's lap.. as far as Campbell is concerned it makes no since for Seattle to want him as the Reason Zorn wants Sanchez is probably because campbell isn't getting thew job done.. why would Seattle even concider campbell.. they would be better off drafting Sanchez...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-86604271798236328142009-04-18T21:27:00.000-07:002009-04-18T21:27:00.000-07:00I wonder if Jason Campbell could become part of th...I wonder if Jason Campbell could become part of this deal. He's a free agent after 2009, but is an interest WCO type of QB. Perhaps paired with an extension it would make sense, and be a Hasselbeck like ascension to the starting job, as the former nears the end of his nfl career.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06828544121105548565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-71072689057998884832009-04-17T08:24:00.000-07:002009-04-17T08:24:00.000-07:00One of the reasons they are starting the discussio...One of the reasons they are starting the discussion at two first rounders is because it shows the teams interested that the Hawks are serious about taking Sanchez. If they weren't asking for a kings ransom then teams would be weary. <br /><br />By saying we will give him to you, but we want two firsts it is saying if you really like this guy come and get him from us, but don't expect him to get past #4 if you don't. <br /><br />It forces the other team to make the decision with out tipping our hand. <br /><br />And as for the player throw ins, I doubt the Hawks are interested in Campbell or Brennan. They are not looking for another backup QB, they have Wallace. ALso, Campbell is a free agent next year and both Hasselbeck and Wallace are signed through 10', so you aren't going to pay Campbell next year. <br /><br />The deal is two firsts if you want the Sanchez.... take it or leave it. Call the bluff and hope no one else takes our offer.Michael Steffeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10977391150318199352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-56276766139653907332009-04-17T08:06:00.000-07:002009-04-17T08:06:00.000-07:00Rob,
if we were talking about excessive compens...Rob, <br /><br /><br />if we were talking about excessive compensation I would be totally with you. If the Hawks were asking a Cutler-type price (2 1sts, a 3rd and a player) then they would be bargaining from a position of weakness like you say. Looking at it strictly from a trade value chart perspective, even given the variables of where Washington might draft in '10, it's a pretty fair deal. That's the part that makes me feel like it might actually have some legs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-33980442424843258412009-04-17T07:45:00.000-07:002009-04-17T07:45:00.000-07:00Very valid points, annonymous. I've always stresse...Very valid points, annonymous. I've always stressed that if Seattle draft Sanchez, it won't be purely under the objective to trade him - they wouldn't be that reckless. They'd need to be sold on Sanchez being their guy at four and any trade offers would merely become a bonus alternative.<br /><br />The problem I have with saying to Washington, "We like him, but..." is that instantly gives off a signal to the Skins that the Seahawks aren't 100% sold here. If they were, they wouldn't be talking about a trade. If Washington wanted to play hard ball in negotiations, they would have a slight advantage there. The skills of Seattle's front office will be tested to the max during the next 7 days if Washington really do want to trade into the top five - it could be crucial if the Seahawks are determined not only move down, but get a good deal.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-70684818958318951272009-04-17T07:25:00.000-07:002009-04-17T07:25:00.000-07:00Rob,
disagree with your general premise, that sh...Rob, <br /><br />disagree with your general premise, that showing any interest in a trade tips off the Skins into trading down into a lower pick. I would say Seattle is playing it thusly: "We like Sanchez, he would make a nice replacement for our guy with the bad back. But we don't like him so much that we wouldn't accept a trade for him."<br /><br />I don't see Ruskell drafting him to trade.... I can't remember too many trades that have gone down like that. Once you pick him, other teams would play hardball..... "Ok, go ahead, keep him"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-75853888732603494562009-04-17T07:09:00.000-07:002009-04-17T07:09:00.000-07:00It's a good point JJhsix, I think St Louis and Kan...It's a good point JJhsix, I think St Louis and Kansas City would ignore any trade value chart and simply accept any deal that Washington would offer to Seattle. Therefore, they put themselves in the highest position possible. Having said that, the finances could play a part. If Matt Stafford gets $40m guaranteed to go first overall, Sanchez could ask for something very similar to go second or third overall. If he goes fourth overall, then he might get a deal closer to the $34.75m guaranteed to Matt Ryan. Ok, it's only $6m (a small amount in context) but with the Skins likely tight against the cap, that could make a difference.<br /><br />I still think a trade at this stage is wishful thinking on Seattle's behalf and essentially, this rumour has only come about because of one report by Jason La Canfora. However, with increased speculation that the Seahawks will take Mark Sanchez at number four, it'll add a bit of extra interest in the last seven days and give us all something different to discuss.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-34814423669845147742009-04-17T07:00:00.000-07:002009-04-17T07:00:00.000-07:00I still hope we can get Denver's 2 1st round picks...I still hope we can get Denver's 2 1st round picks. That would be ideal.Louisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-20820188151988409192009-04-17T06:19:00.000-07:002009-04-17T06:19:00.000-07:00Rob - If Mayock is correct that every single team ...Rob - If Mayock is correct that every single team in the top 10 has tried to trade out I am trying to come up with a reason why KC (or St.Louis for that matter) doesn't go to Washington and say - if we take Sanchez you guarantee to make such and such a trade with us. I guess you can say Washington will call there bluff but I don't imagine they will offer more to get pick 3 than pick 4 so why wouldn't they want to get as high as possible?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-4273660116436960662009-04-17T05:59:00.000-07:002009-04-17T05:59:00.000-07:00I'm not sure that would deter the teams making a t...I'm not sure that would deter the teams making a trade, Patrick. The thing is, Washington might think they need to get ahead of Seattle - many reports say the 'Hawks take Sanchez including Rob Rang. In that scenario they may do a deal with Kansas City that under cuts the Seahawks to guarantee their man.<br /><br />Therefore, for Seattle to get any kind of trade, they would have to hope such a deal isn't completed and then make Washington aware that they are interested in a trade. That's not a great bargaining position and it also makes the 'Skins wary that the Seahawks truly want Sanchez.<br /><br />So it comes back down to this for me - the only way a trade could happen is if Seattle actually takes Sanchez, or they at the very least have his name on the card. KC won't take Sanchez, they can't afford to risk not trading him and having two expensive QB's on the roster (Cassel is still on the franchise tender for now). They're also in a bigger rebuild than the Hawks right now, switching to a new defensive 3-4 scheme and installing a new QB. If the Skins don't make a trade at number three, Sanchez is on the board at four. If he gets passed Seattle he likely doesn't go till 8, 10 or 12. So if Seattle want to do any deal, they might have to take the guy and then deal with Washington. As I said in my article earlier last week, they won't be reckless enough to take a guy purely on the off chance a trade materialises. They'd need to be sold on keeping him if such a deal can't be made.<br /><br />So it goes to show the complicated nature of this potential deal. I don't think we'll hear anything concrete until the Chiefs are on the clock on April 25th.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-9391482066228093302009-04-17T05:41:00.000-07:002009-04-17T05:41:00.000-07:00This might be a lame excuse, but one thing I notic...This might be a lame excuse, but one thing I noticed in regards to Kansas City trading with Redskins is that they play each other this year. Considering Seattle and Redskins don't, it just seems like we might be better trading partners.Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-67509564142360455212009-04-17T02:17:00.000-07:002009-04-17T02:17:00.000-07:00Louis - I'd rather have the extra first rounder in...Louis - I'd rather have the extra first rounder in 2010 than Jason Campbell. He's not a young guy anymore, and there's a reason why the Skins are showing interest in Sanchez.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-71705519030784795072009-04-16T22:27:00.000-07:002009-04-16T22:27:00.000-07:00jjhsix,
Ruskell has created enough smoke to mak...jjhsix, <br /><br /><br />Ruskell has created enough smoke to make other teams (especially impulsive ones like Snyder's Skins) think there might be fire. Pioli on the other hand has almost no credibility in claiming to want Sanchez. No one would buy that. KC could however undercut Seattle and take a similar offer. This would be very bad if Ruskell was indeed targeting Sanchez all along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-86480822746506605992009-04-16T21:56:00.000-07:002009-04-16T21:56:00.000-07:00Rob - Scott Pioli is an incredibly smart guy based...Rob - Scott Pioli is an incredibly smart guy based on his track record. If he catches wind of this potential trade (which I'm sure he has if its being reported widely), what stops him from calling up Washington and saying "I don't care if we have Cassel, we are taking Sanchez and if you want him you have to trade with us?". Basically, I agree with you, this trade only works if Washington waits until after a team like Seattle or KC has already taken Sanchez but then that team loses a lot of bargaining power. I don't see this happening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-87899973896310014382009-04-16T21:51:00.000-07:002009-04-16T21:51:00.000-07:00Campbell is 27.... 28 in December. And he's basica...Campbell is 27.... 28 in December. And he's basically a taller Seneca Wallace. No real value there for the Hawks. Brennan on the other hand......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-83201880256880865022009-04-16T21:25:00.000-07:002009-04-16T21:25:00.000-07:00That deal values Campbell like a first round QB. ...That deal values Campbell like a first round QB. Not sure I agree with that valuation.Bruce M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00191858781733895281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-78829401790371163572009-04-16T20:34:00.000-07:002009-04-16T20:34:00.000-07:00Hmm...ROb, would u take this deal?
Seahawks #4 pi...Hmm...ROb, would u take this deal?<br /><br />Seahawks #4 pick overall<br /><br />for...<br /><br />REdskin's #13 overall and Jason Campbell<br /><br />Campbell is still young, so we can develope him into our franchise QB!<br /><br />I like it!Louisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-78322587674421037132009-04-16T20:19:00.000-07:002009-04-16T20:19:00.000-07:00Washington has officially called Ruskell's hand.
...Washington has officially called Ruskell's hand.<br /><br />Seattle's call.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-76654228151100618692009-04-16T20:02:00.000-07:002009-04-16T20:02:00.000-07:00OMG. TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT!
Moreno would be ...OMG. TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT! <br /><br />Moreno would be awesome, but the question is, would you rather have Crabtree than Moreno and a 1st round pick? I mean...Crabtree has the potential to become someone like a Fitzgerald, and that it might be very depressing when Michael Crabtree tears it up with a different team like Oakland or Jacksonville or Cleveland.<br /><br />The thing that ticks me off is when the people who comment on the articles over at Seahawk Addicts say that if the Redskins draft somewhere in the 20's next year, then we are getting scammed...then they come right back and say that they want to trade with the Eagles this year for their 2 1st rounders.<br /><br />How does that make sense?!? Lets pretend that the Redskins get the 20th pick next year. THe 12th pick and the 20th pick is WAYYYY better than the 21th pick and the 28th pick. Even if the REdskins WIN the Superbowl, the 12th and 32th pick are still better than the 21th and 28th pick.<br /><br />TAKE THE DEAL...UNLESS U CAN FIND A BETTER ONELouisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-37890179167233795582009-04-16T18:01:00.000-07:002009-04-16T18:01:00.000-07:00Interesting thought Patrick, I haven't seen that s...Interesting thought Patrick, I haven't seen that suggestion yet and personally, I like it. It gives the Seahawks somebody to work with for the future at QB, whilst also accumulating some picks. I'm a fan of Brennan's. I think the hype went a bit OTT in pre-season last year, but he showed some promise. Given a couple of years of further development, he might be worth a shot.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-30432067788986064302009-04-16T17:47:00.000-07:002009-04-16T17:47:00.000-07:00Do you think there is any possibility Colt Brennan...Do you think there is any possibility Colt Brennan could be added into the equation? I'm biased because I loved watching him play for Hawaii last year (and I really wanted us to draft him last year), but I mean if Redskins are so high on Sanchez and willing to trade up to get him, doesn't that eliminate their need to groom Brennan? If I remember correctly, he played great in Preseason and some fans were even clamoring for him to be the starter over Cambell before the season began. I don't think he could start now, but behind Hass and Wallace, maybe he could be our QB of the future? Maybe add him with a few draft picks and we could give our #4 and a later round?Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-11143474661878375612009-04-16T15:13:00.000-07:002009-04-16T15:13:00.000-07:00The thing annonymous, we're not talking about any ...The thing annonymous, we're not talking about any GM or owner here. We're talking about Dan Snyder, and when has he ever been worried about getting value? If he wants someone bad enough, he'll do what it takes.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-30012156570640204112009-04-16T15:02:00.000-07:002009-04-16T15:02:00.000-07:00Jax is the target trade spot. The compensation is ...Jax is the target trade spot. The compensation is too hefty to get up to #4. Doesn't matter how crazy a GM is perceived, not many teams want to part with 2 first rounders. Ultimately, the Skins lack of a second round pick is going to kill any deals getting into the top 5.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com