tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post980116268980225578..comments2024-01-31T17:34:09.607-08:00Comments on Seahawks Draft Blog: Eric Berry - still not feeling itRob Statonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-91786547966182844312010-01-02T11:22:37.941-08:002010-01-02T11:22:37.941-08:00EB fanatic - in fairness, you're never likely ...EB fanatic - in fairness, you're never likely to accept criticisms of Berry with a name like that are you? <br /><br />Let me explain myself a bit more here. Essentially, I would be prepared to draft a safety early in certain circumstances. I would be prepared to put Eric Berry, Taylor Mays or Earl Thomas in a top ten mock draft. However, I also watch every prospect with an open mind. I don't follow a college team as a 'fan' as I went to University in England. Therefore all my opinions are based without bias. I call things as I see them.<br /><br />Now - I don't expect to be right every time. I will be wrong, I will be right. All I can do is put my opinion out there and engage in debate.<br /><br />If Eric Berry lands on a team like Pittsburgh that owns a good defense and a strong safety partner, I think Berry could be very succesful. It'd help cloud some of his issues in his early years and what better team to develop with than one that currently owns Troy Polamalu?<br /><br />On the other hand, if someone in the top 5-10 takes him - he'll struggle. He's not going to change a defense on his own. He'd be too much of a luxury that high and i think it'd show up some of the issues I have with him - namely his inconsistent tackling, struggles against bigger opponents and tendency to go low when delivering a tackle or hit.<br /><br />Overall I think he warrants a pick in the 15-25 range on potential. I wouldn't take him higher than that. It doesn't mean I don't think he'll be a success in the NFL. I just think there's enough of a concern there to see a drop on draft day.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-73193575096381983552010-01-01T07:23:44.135-08:002010-01-01T07:23:44.135-08:00Love the blog, Rob.
I think a reason you are so h...Love the blog, Rob.<br /><br />I think a reason you are so hard on Berry is you just do not see the value of a safety early in the draft, so you look for flaws in his results and move him to where you would take him. Nothing wrong with that for your mocks, but that is the same flaw Ruskell had. He was a little too dependant on college results and cared too little for future potential. Curry was a departure from that norm for him, but he was a difficult to ignore athletic specimen. Berry will be drafted high, perhaps too high, for those same reasons. He is good enough in man coverage to take away a second wr, slot wr, or te, he is smart, and physical build is such that he can be taught the rest. He is an every down player that offenses potentially have to plan around. Drafting on potential says he is a top ten player.Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-33249958919999922582009-12-30T19:46:20.924-08:002009-12-30T19:46:20.924-08:00Hi, Hopefully you will address how wrong you were ...Hi, Hopefully you will address how wrong you were when EB is selected in top ten and he makes Pro Bowl 2011! You watch a few games and you can call the EXPERTS wrong! Amazing! You should have your own show where we look to see what you think! He statistics speak volumes, his position was changed this year so not as many interceptions. All opposing teams respect him, coaches and sports writers name him to All American Teams years after year. Luckily only a few more months. Blog after his pick in top ten. Then, blog next year after the season! EB FanaticAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-34041643549635784622009-11-16T16:25:35.909-08:002009-11-16T16:25:35.909-08:00I'd also mention Kenny Phillips here. There wa...I'd also mention Kenny Phillips here. There was a guy projected to go top ten in some early mock drafts simply because he was well known, had a good reputation and came from a school that had got used to producing top defensive backs. He ended up going 31st overall.<br /><br />Berry projects as a better prospect than Phillips and certainly a better prospect than William Moore. However, he isn't nearly as good as some are suggesting and projections of him going 1st or 2nd overall (seen, quite astonishingly, with some frequency) are seriously wide of the mark in my opinion.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-69962624813165856762009-11-16T16:08:22.950-08:002009-11-16T16:08:22.950-08:00It looks like Eric Berry might be in a similar sit...It looks like Eric Berry might be in a similar situation as safety William Moore (Missouri) was in last year. Moore had outstanding stats in 2007 but did not put up the same kind of stats in 2008. Moore was one of the top rated players a good portion of the season, but by the end of the year he was considered a 2nd round prospect.1stHillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17485753987930275932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-27008985454317945892009-11-16T10:05:22.424-08:002009-11-16T10:05:22.424-08:00Hi fountaindale,
I think more to the point, I don...Hi fountaindale,<br /><br />I think more to the point, I don't think Seattle's linebackers are suited to the 3-4. Aaron Curry was judged an ill fit for Kansas City's new 3-4 and that's one of the reasons they didn't take him. He'd have to play ILB like Patrick Willis, but I'm not sure he has that same kind of potential impact at ILB that Willis offers. Neither Hawthorne nor Tatupu are good fits to play alongside him. I don't like Hill at DE/OLB.<br /><br />If Seattle are to make a permanent switch to a 3-4, it'll take a couple of big drafts and a rebuild of the defense. There are too many other pressing matters than having to start drafting nose tackles and OLB's. Look at Green Bay last year - they spent a first rounder on a NT and a first rounder on a 3-4 OLB last year. Even then they're having teething problems trying to convert - and they're more set on offense than we are.<br /><br />The Seahawks have to stay with the 4-3 for now, unless we want to be like the Chiefs this year - a transitional mess.<br /><br />As for Suh or McCoy - Suh for me is suited only to the three technique in the 4-3 and as a 3-4 defensive end. He could be elite at either position, but he isn't a nose tackle. McCoy is less flexible - he's a three technique in the 4-3, but could be one of the best in the business quite quickly when he enters the NFL.<br /><br />This won't be a good draft for quality nose tackles, which is probably the reason why Green Bay snapped up BJ Raji when they did (although I believe he's played as a 3-4 DE mainly this year).Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-28920442492017647772009-11-16T08:56:18.081-08:002009-11-16T08:56:18.081-08:00Rob... I heard Clayton say it would be huge mistak...Rob... I heard Clayton say it would be huge mistake for the Hawks to convert to a 3-4 because it's based on having the right nose tackle. He also said there are only 10 or 12 quality 3-4 nose tackles in the NFL. Are either Suh or McCoy a 3-4 nose tackle canidate? Do you think the Hawks will have a shot at a viable canidate? Thanks.fountaindalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04103263918131337149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-327073867495047062009-11-16T08:01:18.028-08:002009-11-16T08:01:18.028-08:00Annonymous, you make some great points there. I th...Annonymous, you make some great points there. I think there's a very real possibility Eric Berry falls to the back-end of round one. I am happy to stand corrected if Berry goes on to become a top pick in the draft and then a perennial all-pro, but for now I remain a big sceptic.<br /><br />With regard to the Broncos pick, I've just looked at their remaining schedule. If Chris Simms has to start next week, I expect they'll lose to San Diego and go 6-4. They then host the Giants - a game that could be tough to call the way New York's been playing recently. <br /><br />They face the Chiefs twice and the Raiders at home once. I'd expect three wins there as long as Kyle Orton is good to go. That gives them nine wins right off the bat.<br /><br />Obviously if Orton misses time, they could easily struggle. They go to Indianapolis in week 14... Philly in week 16. Both could easily go down as a defeat. <br /><br />They should go at least 9-7, but they're on a bad run right now and as we know in Seattle, they can be tough to get over.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-74746106394965294652009-11-16T07:46:56.563-08:002009-11-16T07:46:56.563-08:00Rob, agree completely. Sounds like I've watch...Rob, agree completely. Sounds like I've watched the same games you have and drawn similar conclusions. Also, while Kiper and McShay and DraftScout rate players, they don't weight them based on positional value. That's why left tackles, cover corners, QB's and WR's (and more recently DE's) tend to gravitate up in the draft, while RB's, safeties, interior lineman and linebackers tend to gravitate down. I have to believe that NFL scouts are seeing the same thing you are, and Berry will fall, probably to late 1st round, and all the pundits will be shocked. Every year early boards have limited left tackle prospects, and yet we always see 5-6 going in round 1. And with all deference to "best player available", it has to be with positional value considered. When teams put their baords together, I expect that they do consider positional value, which is why there are always some surprised when a DE projected for the second round goes in the 1st, or when Denver trades a future 1st round pick for a cover corner (some might say nickel, we'll see) in the early second. <br /><br />Before yesterdays games, I told my son that a Denver loss would be almost as enjoyable as a Seattle win, and it was. I fully expect Denver to continue to slide, perhaps winding up with a 9-7 record, or maybe even 8-8 and we should wind up with our second pick at about 18-20. That is premium value territory. Looking forward to the draft with great anticipation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-43372502988659072962009-11-16T01:38:07.383-08:002009-11-16T01:38:07.383-08:00please no safeties in the first round..please no.....please no safeties in the first round..please no..<br /><br />OL<br />RB<br />QBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-74550291296964121772009-11-15T17:56:28.424-08:002009-11-15T17:56:28.424-08:00He certainly lines up at cornerback on a number of...He certainly lines up at cornerback on a number of snaps, but I don't think a full time switch is in the offing especially in the NFL. He doesn't possess the sufficient recovery or deep speed. In the college ranks they put him out there I think more to try and get him more involved, knowing if he gets the ball in his hands that's when he's at his best. A lot of the time he's annonymous in these games because he plays the position he does, so it makes sense for Monte Kiffin to get creative with the guy largely known as the best on his team.Rob Statonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16481945325907207562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-34651421064994100462009-11-15T17:35:05.412-08:002009-11-15T17:35:05.412-08:00Does Berry have the skill set to make the fulltime...Does Berry have the skill set to make the fulltime switch to corner in the NFL?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5053006193215777292.post-68572592726013949292009-11-15T11:41:04.594-08:002009-11-15T11:41:04.594-08:00Amen. Draftnik hype has a momentum that is hard t...Amen. Draftnik hype has a momentum that is hard to shake.Michaelnoreply@blogger.com