Thanks for the link. Good stuff. I have a feeling Carroll and whomever takes the GM job will make an effort to accumulate as many draft choices as possible in order to remake the roster to their liking, and with their 'own' players. I expect to several current Seahawks traded for draft choices between now and the draft.
If this is indeed a full rebuild, which it very much seems like it will be, new regimes usually like to bring in their own QBs. Do you see a QB arriving via trade, free agency, or a high draft choice? One thing I would rule out is a trade for Leinart. Not only are the Cards division rivals, but Warner may be retiring at the end of the season.
Also, with Carroll being so familiar with Pac-10 players, I would not be surprised to see a few drafted by the Hawks.
You can never rule out a QB being brought in with a new regime, but I expect at this early stage Carroll will go with Hasselbeck. You have to believe he probably wishes they'd drafted Sanchez last year - that would've made things very smooth. It's hard to see how they could bring in a long term option outside of the draft. Would Carroll draft Bradford? I don't think so. Clausen? It's more likely, but I don't think he'd put his new job in Clausen's hands.
Carroll will cast his net wide. We really need a draft to get a feel for how he'd work and what targets he'd look at. We have to believe there might be a chance he looks at defensive end - it's a problem area and there could be two options with Morgan and Everson Griffen at 6 and 14 respectively. I also think he'll look for a field stretcher - a #1 receiver. I don't want to just throw out USC projections, but Damian Williams is ideal for that role. Dez Bryant would be an option at #6.
I agree with you on the DE options. USC always has strong lines, and he has been around long enough to know that you need good lines to succeed, so I really don't think this will lessen the chances of one of our top picks being on the O-line. I still think that LT will be a high priority, even with Carroll. If he is going to build a team, what better place to start than by building strong offensive and defensive lines?
I also think that the QB of the future might have to wait until next year. With both Locker (who Carroll called the best Pac-10 QB he has seen) and Mallett coming out next year, we may have a shot at one of them, unless Carroll turns this thing around fast, which I don't expect.
Carroll and USC have been known to be top notch on the Offensive and Defensive lines. You could say that is a result of recruiting, but look at other big name schools and a lot of them have little to no "Line" talent in the NFL. Florida instantly comes to mind.
I cannot see Carroll taking Bradford at all. Carroll never utilized a gimmicky offense in college and I think he truly frowns upon that because of stunting the development of QBs.
Carroll also has had a up close view on Clausen for the last 3 years and has a unique perspective of coaching against him and seeing him develop and play both on the road and at home in unique environments.
I fully expect Carroll and Co. to start trading guys with any value and load up on draft picks. I personally love the idea because I think success of any football team is dependent upon establishing an identity and obtaining players that fit that system.
I'm personally very excited about this new endeavor because I've always admired Carroll as a person and football coach. I think we will see the first 3 picks used on guys in the trenches and possibly a big play threat. Carroll is notorious for getting the most out of players and it's no surprise that so many guys that played for him in the past are fully endorsing him now.
I think we are in for a bright future with this shift towards a positive environment in which there is an emphasis on putting players in the best situation to succeed. For those opposing this move, I emplore you to give him a chance.
The Seahawks cleary feel Pete Carroll is the man for the head coaching job. We have to remember, there was no guarantee Eric De Costa would leave Baltimore, he's said only recently he and his family are very settled. He's also not the GM in Baltimore, so it's no guarantee their success follows him to the North West.
The Seahawks have chosen Carroll and will put him in the position it takes to get him. He'll make the decisions on personnel... staff and roster. They'll bring in a GM to work with him on cap, contracts, evaluation and the rest. People will say that didn't work with Holmgren, but he was always fighting for his voice to be heard. The people working with Carroll will likely be his guys. It's important to remember, this team has also already hand picked a highly rated staff member from another franchise and gave him carte blanche. He drafted, he traded, he signed big deals, he brought his own coach. He was Tim Ruskell and his regime was Jim Mora and co.
The Seahawks appear to be finding a middle ground here. A football 'face of the franchise' with power, but surrounded by the right guys to share the burden.
There's talk Carroll would be interested in New Mexico State Head Coach Dewayne Walker to be the DC. Norm Chow runs a WCO, he's from that back ground. They aren't going to be able to shift out a lot of the key components, at least not immediately. Bringing in Chow makes sense because he can utilise the guys currently on the roster, he'll know how to handle Hasselbeck, Houshmandzadeh et al.
He's experienced, more so than Bates. Carroll might want a more experienced OC because this isn't an offense set up for the long term. The priority is for someone to come in, establish a scheme and just get the basics right. There's not going to be any flashy schemes or new ideas. It'll be down to the basics with a guy like Chow, set a platform for the future. That's what the Seahawks need now. They need a guy who's been there and done it.
Ken Norton Jr. is reported to be coming in as linebackers coach. A nice move - he can coach.
It's always difficult to trade guys who a 5-11 team don't want. There's not much draft potential on the Seahawks roster. In reality, you cant expect to get much (if anything) for guys in their 30's who aren't producing right now. I'd be surprised if Deion Branch would return anything. Kerney - do you give up a pick for an often injured DE who's past his prime? I doubt it, it's very short term-ist. Hasselbeck likewise, you'd be lucky to get much even if he would have value to some teams. I don't think Tatupu will go anywhere, or Leroy Hill.
The only thing to consider is - the remaining playoff teams have essentially won a bye for free agency. They won't be allowed, because of the capless year, to bring in free agents unless they lose guys themselves. That's what Adam Schefter has been reporting. They might have to trade picks to bring in guys who could push them over the edge. That will help some teams. But even then - who does Seattle trade? And what do they get back? I cant see them having much luck bringing guys in. Playmakers on either side of the ball bring in high rewards in trades. Seattle hasn't got any playmakers.
Trade Bate: Patrick Kerney, Sean Locklear, Julius Jones, Deon Grant, David Hawthorne
Daryl Tapp: A free agent to be
Deion Branch: A free agent to be.
I don't see a whole lot on our roster than is trade worthy. It would be a shame if we decide to drop Hawthorne for picks.
I have always liked Kerney but he has declined ALOT
I full expect past USC players Lawrence Jackson and Lofa Tatupu to be great next season. Finally we might see Lawrence Jackson play like a 1st round player!
The good thing about Jackson is that he can be stout on the side opposite a good pass rusher. He has decent size and is a better run defender than a pass rusher. Carroll likes to get a guy in a bit of space off the edge, but you've got nice security on the other side with Jackson. It wouldn't surprise me if Seattle drafted a Derrick Morgan or Everson Griffen to pass rush accross from Jackson. Tapp can spell both roles.
I also expect he'll show a great deal of interest in wide outs early. I'll have something about this on the blog tomorrow.
It was reported that Bates is coming with him, so no Norm Chow. I am hopeful they get some solid oline help with two of first three picks and use the other on a defensive playmaker (aka Berry/Thomas).
6 berry/haden / berry/haden 14 iupati (og) bulaga (ot) 40 brown (ot) johnson (og)
There will be a piece on Carroll and the draft up in the next few hours. As an aside - great example in GB vs Arizona of two teams without a great offensive line (GB's is horrible) but still able to score 96 points in a playoff game combined. The answer? Good quarterback play and good receivers.
Any good WR sleepers in later rounds? I know Freddie Barnes is pretty good. What round is he projected to go? And do any of you know if Jacoby Ford is good?
I like Barnes, he could go in the 3-4 round range because his hands and production have been superb. He isn't the fastest, but he catches everything. Ford's stock will be dictated largely by his 40 yard dash time. If he runs a solid 4.3 he's likely a third rounder, potentially late second rounder. When I've watched Clemson he's been their main threat at wide out. He's been used in many ways, some trick plays. He's raw but his speed and ability to progress quickly mean he has lots of potential.
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Thanks for the link. Good stuff. I have a feeling Carroll and whomever takes the GM job will make an effort to accumulate as many draft choices as possible in order to remake the roster to their liking, and with their 'own' players. I expect to several current Seahawks traded for draft choices between now and the draft.
If this is indeed a full rebuild, which it very much seems like it will be, new regimes usually like to bring in their own QBs. Do you see a QB arriving via trade, free agency, or a high draft choice? One thing I would rule out is a trade for Leinart. Not only are the Cards division rivals, but Warner may be retiring at the end of the season.
Also, with Carroll being so familiar with Pac-10 players, I would not be surprised to see a few drafted by the Hawks.
TJ
You can never rule out a QB being brought in with a new regime, but I expect at this early stage Carroll will go with Hasselbeck. You have to believe he probably wishes they'd drafted Sanchez last year - that would've made things very smooth. It's hard to see how they could bring in a long term option outside of the draft. Would Carroll draft Bradford? I don't think so. Clausen? It's more likely, but I don't think he'd put his new job in Clausen's hands.
Carroll will cast his net wide. We really need a draft to get a feel for how he'd work and what targets he'd look at. We have to believe there might be a chance he looks at defensive end - it's a problem area and there could be two options with Morgan and Everson Griffen at 6 and 14 respectively. I also think he'll look for a field stretcher - a #1 receiver. I don't want to just throw out USC projections, but Damian Williams is ideal for that role. Dez Bryant would be an option at #6.
I agree with you on the DE options. USC always has strong lines, and he has been around long enough to know that you need good lines to succeed, so I really don't think this will lessen the chances of one of our top picks being on the O-line. I still think that LT will be a high priority, even with Carroll. If he is going to build a team, what better place to start than by building strong offensive and defensive lines?
I also think that the QB of the future might have to wait until next year. With both Locker (who Carroll called the best Pac-10 QB he has seen) and Mallett coming out next year, we may have a shot at one of them, unless Carroll turns this thing around fast, which I don't expect.
TJ
Great points brought up.
Carroll and USC have been known to be top notch on the Offensive and Defensive lines. You could say that is a result of recruiting, but look at other big name schools and a lot of them have little to no "Line" talent in the NFL. Florida instantly comes to mind.
I cannot see Carroll taking Bradford at all. Carroll never utilized a gimmicky offense in college and I think he truly frowns upon that because of stunting the development of QBs.
Carroll also has had a up close view on Clausen for the last 3 years and has a unique perspective of coaching against him and seeing him develop and play both on the road and at home in unique environments.
I fully expect Carroll and Co. to start trading guys with any value and load up on draft picks. I personally love the idea because I think success of any football team is dependent upon establishing an identity and obtaining players that fit that system.
I'm personally very excited about this new endeavor because I've always admired Carroll as a person and football coach. I think we will see the first 3 picks used on guys in the trenches and possibly a big play threat. Carroll is notorious for getting the most out of players and it's no surprise that so many guys that played for him in the past are fully endorsing him now.
I think we are in for a bright future with this shift towards a positive environment in which there is an emphasis on putting players in the best situation to succeed. For those opposing this move, I emplore you to give him a chance.
this has been ridiculous. why get coach before gm. we should be getting the gm guy decosta from baltimore and letting pick his coach.
E in F
Decosta wants to stay in Baltimore. I do agree that GM should be first tho.
The Seahawks cleary feel Pete Carroll is the man for the head coaching job. We have to remember, there was no guarantee Eric De Costa would leave Baltimore, he's said only recently he and his family are very settled. He's also not the GM in Baltimore, so it's no guarantee their success follows him to the North West.
The Seahawks have chosen Carroll and will put him in the position it takes to get him. He'll make the decisions on personnel... staff and roster. They'll bring in a GM to work with him on cap, contracts, evaluation and the rest. People will say that didn't work with Holmgren, but he was always fighting for his voice to be heard. The people working with Carroll will likely be his guys. It's important to remember, this team has also already hand picked a highly rated staff member from another franchise and gave him carte blanche. He drafted, he traded, he signed big deals, he brought his own coach. He was Tim Ruskell and his regime was Jim Mora and co.
The Seahawks appear to be finding a middle ground here. A football 'face of the franchise' with power, but surrounded by the right guys to share the burden.
How do you guys feel about Norm Chow and him having a chance coming here? What DC is PC going to bring over?
There's talk Carroll would be interested in New Mexico State Head Coach Dewayne Walker to be the DC. Norm Chow runs a WCO, he's from that back ground. They aren't going to be able to shift out a lot of the key components, at least not immediately. Bringing in Chow makes sense because he can utilise the guys currently on the roster, he'll know how to handle Hasselbeck, Houshmandzadeh et al.
He's experienced, more so than Bates. Carroll might want a more experienced OC because this isn't an offense set up for the long term. The priority is for someone to come in, establish a scheme and just get the basics right. There's not going to be any flashy schemes or new ideas. It'll be down to the basics with a guy like Chow, set a platform for the future. That's what the Seahawks need now. They need a guy who's been there and done it.
Ken Norton Jr. is reported to be coming in as linebackers coach. A nice move - he can coach.
The panel seems to think we'll be trading for picks. Who is viable trade bait and what could we get?
Ahem... I might be wrong but I think the NFL uses carts rather than field stretchers.
It's always difficult to trade guys who a 5-11 team don't want. There's not much draft potential on the Seahawks roster. In reality, you cant expect to get much (if anything) for guys in their 30's who aren't producing right now. I'd be surprised if Deion Branch would return anything. Kerney - do you give up a pick for an often injured DE who's past his prime? I doubt it, it's very short term-ist. Hasselbeck likewise, you'd be lucky to get much even if he would have value to some teams. I don't think Tatupu will go anywhere, or Leroy Hill.
The only thing to consider is - the remaining playoff teams have essentially won a bye for free agency. They won't be allowed, because of the capless year, to bring in free agents unless they lose guys themselves. That's what Adam Schefter has been reporting. They might have to trade picks to bring in guys who could push them over the edge. That will help some teams. But even then - who does Seattle trade? And what do they get back? I cant see them having much luck bringing guys in. Playmakers on either side of the ball bring in high rewards in trades. Seattle hasn't got any playmakers.
Trade Bate: Patrick Kerney, Sean Locklear, Julius Jones, Deon Grant, David Hawthorne
Daryl Tapp: A free agent to be
Deion Branch: A free agent to be.
I don't see a whole lot on our roster than is trade worthy. It would be a shame if we decide to drop Hawthorne for picks.
I have always liked Kerney but he has declined ALOT
I full expect past USC players Lawrence Jackson and Lofa Tatupu to be great next season. Finally we might see Lawrence Jackson play like a 1st round player!
The good thing about Jackson is that he can be stout on the side opposite a good pass rusher. He has decent size and is a better run defender than a pass rusher. Carroll likes to get a guy in a bit of space off the edge, but you've got nice security on the other side with Jackson. It wouldn't surprise me if Seattle drafted a Derrick Morgan or Everson Griffen to pass rush accross from Jackson. Tapp can spell both roles.
I also expect he'll show a great deal of interest in wide outs early. I'll have something about this on the blog tomorrow.
It was reported that Bates is coming with him, so no Norm Chow. I am hopeful they get some solid oline help with two of first three picks and use the other on a defensive playmaker (aka Berry/Thomas).
6 berry/haden / berry/haden
14 iupati (og) bulaga (ot)
40 brown (ot) johnson (og)
E in F
There will be a piece on Carroll and the draft up in the next few hours. As an aside - great example in GB vs Arizona of two teams without a great offensive line (GB's is horrible) but still able to score 96 points in a playoff game combined. The answer? Good quarterback play and good receivers.
Any good WR sleepers in later rounds? I know Freddie Barnes is pretty good. What round is he projected to go? And do any of you know if Jacoby Ford is good?
I like Barnes, he could go in the 3-4 round range because his hands and production have been superb. He isn't the fastest, but he catches everything. Ford's stock will be dictated largely by his 40 yard dash time. If he runs a solid 4.3 he's likely a third rounder, potentially late second rounder. When I've watched Clemson he's been their main threat at wide out. He's been used in many ways, some trick plays. He's raw but his speed and ability to progress quickly mean he has lots of potential.
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