Friday, 23 April 2010

2010 NFL Draft: Day Two

ROUND 2



#33 St Louis: Roger Saffold (OT, Indiana)
The Rams have book end tackles now, so protecting Sam Bradford is clearly a priority. They have a good offensive line, a good running back and now a franchise quarterback.




#34 Minnesota: Chris Cook (CB, Virginia)
Clausen sees another destination drift away. There was a lot of talk of Cook going to Minnesota leading up to the draft.




#35 Tampa Bay: Brian Price (DT, UCLA)
The Buccs take a partner for Gerald McCoy. That's an expensive interior defensive line and a bad offense, but I like both their picks.




#36 Kansas City: Dexter McCluster (RB, Ole Miss)
I don't like this choice. Ole Miss wanted a Percy Harvin last year, but shut him down as a wide out after a number of poor performances. He excelled as a pure runner late in the year, but I think he's too small to do that in the NFL.




#37 Philadelphia: Nate Allen (S, USF)
The Eagles clearly preferred the combo of Brandon Graham & Nate Allen over Earl Thomas and Everson Griffen.




#38 Cleveland: T.J. Ward (S, Oregon)
Interesting choice and a bit of a surprise. I'm not surprised Colt McCoy didn't go here, or Clausen for that matter. This is good value for Clausen now, but McCoy isn't worth a pick in round two.




#39 Tampa Bay: Arrelious Benn (WR, Illinois)
The Buccs spend a 5th rounder to move up a few spots. They absolutely had to find a weapon for Josh Freeman, they get a big target.




#40 Miami: Koa Misi (OLB, Utah)
Parcells pick #2, very steady scheme fit. The big names keep dropping. This pick previously belonged to Seattle.




#41 Buffalo: Torrell Troup (DT, UCF)
This guy is a nose tackle and the Bills are switching to a 3-4 scheme. Clausen keeps falling, he's running out of options. I never thought he was a Chan Gailey guy.




#42 New England: Rob Gronkowski (TE, Arizona)
The Pats move up to take Gronkowski who fills a need for New England.




#43 Baltimore: Sergio Kindle (OLB, Texas)
Chaos reigns as nobody knows whether New England made the trade in time and a backlog occurs. Baltimore take Sergio Kindle who falls because of injury concerns.




#44 Oakland: Lamarr Houston (DT, Texas)
Two Longhorns go back-to-back. Got to say - very impressed with Oakland's draft so far. Great pick, a potential Seahawks target maybe?




#45 Denver: Zane Beadles (OG, Utah)
Does he play guard? Center? Bit of a surprise this one because Beadles would've possibly been around a bit later. They obviously like him a lot and not J.D. Walton.




#46 New York Giants: Linval Joseph (DT, East Carolina)
I like the value, but surprised it was the Giants who made the move. He's a potential nose tackle. There's still time for this to change, but I anticipated Cody falling out of round two. Will it happen?




#47 Arizona: Daryl Washington (OLB, TCU)
The Cardinals make a big move, paying a third rounder to New England to select Washington.




#48 Carolina: Jimmy Clausen (QB, Notre Dame)
The Panthers take a shot on the guy nobody wanted. This is great value and well worth the risk. If he fails here, the cost is minimal. Definitely worth a go.




#49 San Francisco: Taylor Mays (S, USC)
The run on 'big names' begins. Mays is a Singletary guy and that 49ers team gets another nasty hitter. If only they had a quarterback, they'd be some team.




#50 Kansas City: Javier Arenas (CB, Alabama)
Got to say, I'm not impressed with the way the Chiefs have drafted under Pioli. This is another head scratcher - I like Arenas, but this is very early for a limited corner prospect.




#51 Minnesota: Toby Gerhart (RB, Stanford)
The Vikings trade with the Texans to grab Toby Gerhart. That's a nice compliment to Adrian Peterson. Houston, needing a back, preferred to move down.




#52 Pittsburgh: Jason Worilds (OLB, Virginia Tech)
Scheme fit guy, nice edge rush who was in that late second/early third range.




#53 New England: Jermaine Cunningham (OLB, Florida)
The NFL Network has crashed, just as Seattle are preparing their pick at #60. The Pats take an edge rusher and they needed one.




#54 Cincinnati: Carlos Dunlap (DE, Florida)
The risk here is limited, the reward is high.




#55 Dallas: Sean Lee (LB, Penn State)
The Cowboys trade up from #59 to get Philly's pick and take Sean Lee.




#56 Green Bay: Michael Neal (DT, Purdue)
The Packers continue to build around their 3-4 defense. Seattle on the board soon - keep an eye on Geno Atkins and Mardy Gilyard.




#57 Baltimore: Terrance Cody (DT, Alabama)
Cody offers some depth up front for the Ravens. He needed to land on a team like this where his work load can be managed.




#58 Houston: Ben Tate (RB, Auburn)
The Texans trade back up to select Ben Tate. I'm a big fan of Tate, he could have an immediate impact as a rookie. This was an obvious fit.




#59 Cleveland: Montario Hardesty (RB, Tennessee)
Holmgren trades with Philly to get above Seattle and take Hardesty. Both Houston and Cleveland wanted to get above Seattle to take a running back. I like Hardesty, but his injury history worries me. I got this wrong though, I thought he'd go later.




#60 Seattle: Golden Tate (WR, Notre Dame)
I didn't like Tate in round one. Here - it's less of a gamble. He can be a playmaker and he's a fighter. They'll be creative with Tate and use him as a runner, slot guy, and receiver. The Seahawks needed a spark on offense. The value at #60 overall was immense, so we can put to bed any concerns about the Whitehurst trade.
Watch the Seahawks select Golden Tate in round two here




#61 New York Jets: Vladimir Ducasse (OT, UMass)
The Jets were expected to explore the possibility of adding a lineman.




#62 New England: Brandon Spikes (LB, Florida)
A football player. Forget the physical numbers, he'll just go out there and make tackles. I like this pick for New England.




#63 Indianapolis: Pat Angerer (LB, Iowa)
I thought this would be Charles Brown's home. Obviously there's something we don't know about that is dropping him. He's too good to still be here. Everson Griffen is a big shock too.




#64 New Orleans: Charles Brown (OT, USC)
I'm glad to see Brown off the board. They say a medical (neck) issue led to a fall. He found a good home.


ROUND 3 REVIEW
Carolina are the epitome of how deep this draft is. They don't own a first round pick, don't make any moves and still get Jimmy Clausen and Brandon LaFell. Cleveland have taken Colt McCoy - although in round three I still think it's a reach. I just don't see McCoy ever starting in the NFL. The Bears made their first selection, taking one of my favorite prospects - Florida safety Major Wright. USC's Damian Williams landed in Tennessee, which is a good fit for both parties. The Broncos also found good value in the continuation of their offensive rebuild, taking J.D. Walton. Everson Griffen remains on the board after an unprecedented slump.

134 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think the lambs will trade their pick.

Anonymous said...

staffold

Rob Staton said...

A lot of talk that Cook was high on Minnesota's list. Still no sign of Clausen finding a home.

Anonymous said...

i dont get it, Minnesota is a perfect fit for Jimmy.

Anonymous said...

NOOOO, Price is gone. Why the f would Tampa draft two 3 techs?

Alex

Jayce said...

Dang one of the Dt's I wanted taken. But he never was expected to drop all the way down to us.

Anonymous said...

Hey does anyone know what the 3 technique is compared to the 1 technique? Also what technique does Brandon Mebane play? Then would we need the other technique?

Steve in Spain said...

KC has to take Clausen, right? Charlie Weis?

Ben said...

Wow, big surprise. You'd think that the teams in the top of the 2nd would be trading out of their picks, but apparently they didn't get "F-U money" sort of offers.

kwsikes said...

What is the hope at this point? Who are we pulling to fall to our pick?

Rob Staton said...

Mebane has played both positions, but slimmed down to play the three last year. He looked more effective as a one technique.

Rob Staton said...

Clearly, the reports KC were thinking about Clausen at #6 were false.

McCluster is a massive reach here for me.

Anonymous said...

Cluster. wow, clausen got owned.

alex

USAFANARC said...

That says volumes about Clausen. When his own college coach won't take him you've gotta wonder. Weis must be really happy with their current situation or he's had enough of Clausen.

Anonymous said...

I agree. I wonder if Holmgren will take Clausen or if the Buffalo Bills will take him. I would have thought Clausen would have been taken VERY early (top 3 of 2nd round).

Is Mays next?

Anonymous said...

looks like Nate Allen is it.

Rob Staton said...

I'm having a hard time placing Clausen now. You have to believe one team will take a chance soon - lower cost, lower risk... point to prove.

Kip Earlywine said...

Wow look at this list of names:

Jimmy Clausen
Charles Brown
Bruce Campbell
Everson Griffen
Taylor Mays
Carlos Dunlap
Brandon Lafell
Arrelius Benn
Golden Tate
Damian Williams
Mardy Gilyard
Geno Atkins
Lamarr Houston
Jon Asamoah
JD Walton
Chad Jones
Reshad Jones

Anonymous said...

clausen or mccoy? or...someone else.

alex

Donald Duck said...

Should the hawks take Clausen if he is available at #60?

Anonymous said...

TJ Ward. Wow, Clausen got passed AGAIN. I see the next major stops as Oakland and the Bills. Then SF.

Alex

Charles said...

Rob- when does Mays become an option? what pick does his value make it worth it? Do we have to wait from him to fall all the way to 60? or is somewhere in the 50's or late 40's good enough?

Rob Staton said...

Donald Duck - they have to consider Clausen if he is - but he won't be. At that stage, you take the chance because the cost is minimal. But it depends who else is there, I expect a lot of the big names to jump off the board now.

Anonymous said...

if by some disaster where all my beloved DTs are gone (Houston and Atkins), the WRs are gone (Tate, Lavell are gone), and the worthy DEs are gone, then I would take Clausen.

Frankly, I think Clausen is worth it at #60. Lol

Alex

Rob Staton said...

Charles - for me, Mays should be an option now for any team looking for a safety. Yes he has issues, but I have no issues with Seattle spending a second rounder on him.

Anonymous said...

If by some miracle Atkins, Houston, Mays, and Clausen are at #60 (I doubt it), who should we take?

Alex

Rob Staton said...

If it only costs a 5th rounder to move up three spots... helps Seattle if they want to make a move. Plenty of ammunition.

Anonymous said...

well, one of the few WRs that I like is off. I like Benn for his size and YAC.

Alex

Anonymous said...

WAIT, WHO? They passed on Sergio Kindle at OLB?

Alex

Anonymous said...

so is it Clausen now for the bills?

Alex

Rob Staton said...

For me, Clausen isn't a Chan Gailey pick.

Anonymous said...

Wow, a who is this DT (Mayock say he's a 3rd rounder)? I'm seeing all these people that I have no clue of.

Alex

Anonymous said...

Kindle is rumored to have serious injury concerns, thats why

Steve in Spain said...

Wow, I'm very surprised the way this 2nd rd is shaping up.

Alex, Kindle's knees are shot. As in microfracture shot. That's why no one's taking him.

Rob Staton said...

I had Troup in round two. Just surprised he went before Linval Joseph.

Anonymous said...

ah, I see. No wonder Kindle is dropping.

I would have thought Raiders may have taken Campbell.

Alex

Steve in Spain said...

If it keeps up like this, it's like we got Whitehurst for free.

Rob Staton said...

Still a lot of value on the board, but still about 15-16 teams ahead. Lot of big names to go now.

Anonymous said...

wow, chaos is all over.

Alex

Steve in Spain said...

Have *any* USC players been picked yet?

Bruce M. said...

Steve in Spain--

Except for next year's third rounder, of course...

Anonymous said...

NOOO, looks like Houston is selected. NOOO.

Alex

Charles said...

please let mays keep dropping...

Jayce said...

I'm sad now...I really hope Geno Atkins is still there.

Steve in Spain said...

Dang, Oakland takes Lamarr Houston! This has been a surprising quality draft for Al Davis.

Rob Staton said...

Davis resists the temptation to draft Mays and Campbell. Very impressed with Oakland's picks so far, building a very good defense.

Rob Staton said...

Seattle are still 15 picks away. A lot of big names still out there, but enough to make the #60 a steal?

Matthew Baldwin said...

Hoping for Carlos Dunlap or Brandon Ghee; maybe Ben Tate or Carlton Mitchell.

Steve in Spain said...

What on earth? Denver takes Zane Beadles? He's strictly a ZBS guy. How does this help; them transition to a man blocking scheme?!

Anonymous said...

And the QB talk has died down again.
I know Brown is a ZBS tackle, but I'm REALLY surprised that he is still here now.

Alex

Steve said...

Man, looks like we're going to need to trade up to get a D-Lineman. But staying put looks like we'll get someone real good too.

Anthony said...

What are the odds on Seattle being the first team to take a Trojan?

hunter said...

Who is going to take clausen?

Anonymous said...

Washington it is. If Clausen falls past Carolina, SF, and KC in the next three picks, I can see Clausen coming to the Hawks (as much as I dislike him, it's a worthy pick).

Alex

Anonymous said...

Mike Sando is saying Carolina and Clausen. Let's see.

Alex

Rob Staton said...

Is anyone else stunned at some of the names still on the board? Even if every one leaves now, it's still a big shock. Clausen's running out of options if Carolina don't bite.

Anonymous said...

My guess is that the 49ers take jimmy Clausen.

Erik

Fudwamper said...

Do we take Brown if he falls?

Charles said...

im guessing mays to 49ers... i want him but i feel like thats who theyll get

Anonymous said...

Tackle is not as much as a need compared to DL (DEs are there, but DT only has Atkins).

Alex

cysco said...

eek, not a fan of th 9ers getting Mays.

Charles said...

ARGH!!!

A-R-N-F said...

Griffen and Dunlap on the board still... make a move Pete.

Rob Staton said...

Keep an eye on Geno Atkins and Mardy Gilyard.

Anonymous said...

I'm no longer in favor of moving up because the people worth moving up are mostly gone.

The deepest positions remaining seem to be WR (Tate, Lavell, Williams), DE (Dunlap, Griffin, Wrooten), and then maybe S (Chad is still on and Burnett). Tackle IMO only has Atkins left.

Alex

Anonymous said...

the niners are looking scary

hunter said...

Minus the QB postition...

Anonymous said...

Looking ahead, I'm predicting a big back for the Texans in the 2nd round.

Alex

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm a bit surprised that the Texans traded. I guess my Texans think Gerhart and the other big backs have minimal difference.

Alex

Anonymous said...

Ben Tate, Taylor Price, Damian Williams, Owusu-Ansah, Atkins, Dunlap.

Jayce said...

Atkins or Dunlap would be good

Kelly said...

What's wrong with Charles Brown? Quite a drop for him...

jah said...

Golden Tate. Charles Brown. Bruce Campbell

Steve in Spain said...

Cunningham? Oh, it's the Patriots, must be a genius pick.

Steve in Spain said...

Kelly, they're saying Charles Brown has a bad back.

Anonymous said...

Dunlaps off.

Still got Damian Williams, Charles Brown, Geno Atkins, Everson Griffin, Lafell.

Those would all be good values.

jah said...

picking up Charles Brown would solidify our bookends for the next ten years. I bet brown is the 3rd rated tackle on our board

jah said...

i want a 3rd rounder

Anonymous said...

If Griffin falls in Pete's lap he'll jump.

Anonymous said...

I'm actually getting a bit tempted with Charles Brown. As someone said, our line would be SOLID for years to come.

Alex

Anonymous said...

my Texans are up next.

Alex

Anonymous said...

so it's ben tate. I guess that's not bad.

Alex

jah said...

NO to Colt McCoy Kiper, you putz!!

Anonymous said...

DAMN! I wanted B Tate! Griffin for sure now.

Curt said...

Schnider might go after the Y.A.C. guy. Golden Tate. I would like to see Griffin too.

Curt said...

Carroll is on the phone so is Schnider. Maybe a trade?

Anonymous said...

Plenty of good value. Who would have thought Brown is still here? Griffin is here. Tate and Lavell are here. If DT, Atkins is here.

So there plenty of value.

Alex

Curt said...

They are happy about something in the war room!

jah said...

Charles Brown, por favor

cysco said...

soooo tempted to draft Charles Brown. Unless his back is really jacked up. Talk about massive value.

Curt said...

Golden Tate!

jah said...

I'm alright with Golden Tate

Steve in Spain said...

Golden Tate! Playmaker!

Pumped and Jacked!

Anonymous said...

Well... he was a RB once. I see reverses in out future. I can live with this pick.

Swampfox said...

Yeah baby!! G. Tate, welcome to the Emerald City!!

hunter said...

That is a terrible pick IMO. Tate is not what we needed.

Anonymous said...

What... a playmaker on offense isn't one of things we needed?

Anonymous said...

Really not liking the Golden Tate pick. I just don't see it. His game speed is nowhere near his combine times. Really disappointed with this one especially with Lafell, Williams, Griffen, etc on the board.

hunter said...

we needed a number 1 reciever, not another slot/2 guy. Brandon Ghee or Geno Atkins would have been a much better pick.

Anonymous said...

Tate will never become a play maker in the NFL. His play speed is not very good and he padded stats against some really piss poor defenses.

Really poor pick in my opinion unless they move him to RB.

Anonymous said...

He is one of the BPA (Griffin and Brown aside). I'm slightly shocked with the pick because he isn't the tall type of receiver, but I saw him last year and he IS GOOD. He is a playmaker and he adjusts to Clausen VERY WELL. I thought Tate was a VERY late to early 2nd rounder (but Brown and Tate are both late 1st rounders).

I'm not against the pick because I've seen him play very well. He is EXTREMELY athletic. He fulfills Carroll's desire of a WR who can score TDs. And if Carroll passed on Griffen (DL is a need according to Carroll), then I'm sure there is something going on.

Alex

cysco said...

puzzling pick. I understand the desire to get a play maker, but there was much better value on the board. DE is such a spot of need for this team. hmmmm.

I don't hate it, but i'm not thrilled.

cysco

Anonymous said...

That is a terrible pick, ugh

A-R-N-F said...

What a waste. I guess we're OK with letting the Dline get manhandled next year.

jah said...

I like the Tate pick. If the Hawks wanted a playmaker out of this draft, the 2nd round was the place to do it. I'm still hoping we trade into the early 3rd to pick up one of Brown, Campbell or Griffen

Anonymous said...

Golden Tate gets the ball in the end zone...that's exactly what the Seahawks need. He will return kicks, too. A number of the mocks earlier today had him going in the top 5 picks of round two. Tate may very well have been the Seahawks pick if they still had #40, so the Whitehurst trade had no negative impact after all! Go Golden Go!

jah said...

nevermind on Brown.

Anonymous said...

I have more faith in Charlie Whitehurst becoming Tom Brady than I do Golden Tate becoming a top 40 WR in the NFL.

Small, slow game speed, body catcher...not a very good combination to becoming a "playmaker" at the NFL level.

I don't care about how fast he is in shorts and how many yards he racks up against bad defenses, I just don't see the need for yet another undersized WR when Damian Williams and Brandon Lafell are on the board. Not to mention having Everson Griffen staring us in the face.

Really not liking this pick at all.

Kelly said...

Michigan, Michigan St, Purdue, USC, Boston College, Pittsburgh... it's not like he was playing the WAC Anonymous. Not sure why you think he only racked up stats against bad defenses.

Anonymous said...

I will say that it says something about Brown (I'm thinking there is possibly an injury), Griffin, and Williams who are ALL USC GUYS didn't get picked.

I'm holding an outside hope that Geno Atkins reach to the 4th round.

Alex

Anonymous said...

Michigan D - 82nd
UW D - 79th
Stanford D - 90th
Nevada D - 96th
Michigan St D - 73rd
Purdue D - 69th
Western Michigan D - 101st
USC D - 40th

Just a few defenses I could find. I'm really not trying to be Mr. Pessimist, but if you watch him play, his game speed is significantly slower than his 40 time in a spandex suit with track shoes on. I just don't know why you pick Golden Tate when you have Branch and Butler on the team and you have massive holes elsewhere.

We should have addressed much more vital positions like DE, DT, perhaps CB.

Jon said...

Love the pick, his flash will do the same thing for this offense that Spiller would have. You have to have at least one guy that the defense is threatened by to keep them honest.

Tate should keep defenses from stacking the box as much as usual(helping the running game) and it should help Housh and Carlson on the other side.
Spiller would have helped in an inverse fashion as he's a RB but the result is the same: keep the defense honest.

Even with Alex Gibbs, Okung, Ben Hamilton and anyone else they draft on the O line it's going to take sometime to get that squad turned around. Adding a playmaker like Tate can take the pressure off a bit as that group gels.

The 2010 Hawks wont have the talent of the 2009 Vike's but I feel Golden Tate has the best opportunity to have a Percy Harvin type of impact this season....at least this years Eddie Royal.

Anonymous said...

Carroll must not have liked Griffin at DE. CB's value is not there. There is a HUGE dropoff after the top 3 or 4 CBs. I thought of Atkins, but it would have potentially been overdrafting though I wouldn't have minded it. At least you get your value with that pick. FWIW, at the time, Tate was the best player available on SI's board.

Anonymous said...

Sweet! Golden Tate gets to continue facing off against Taylor Mays!

Rob Staton said...

So if this is the Seahawks done until tomorrow - thoughts on Rounds 1&2 overall?

Austin said...

I love the pick. People keep talking about game speed but Carroll saw his game speed up close and personal so I trust he has a better handle on it then we do. He also knows Damian Williams and would of selected him if he thought he was better. Tate has a chance to be Steve Smith light and we desperately needed a playmaker and got one in Tate. I've watched him play and he has a chance to be a difference maker at the next level. Incredible value for Carroll and staff. I would of been happy taking Tate at #40 pre Whitehurst trade.

Anonymous said...

Great first round by the Hawks. I'm warming up to Okung because he sounds like an insane work ethic guy. Earl Thomas is going to be special.

Not thrilled about Tate. Body catcher, small, slow game speed. I would have rather taken a chance on a guy who has the ability to become a #1 type WR. I'm going to be shocked if Tate ever becomes a decent #2.

Austin said...

Rob-I don't think they could of done a better job than they did. They addressed 3 major needs and got 3 guys who will start immediately or in Tate's case play a ton. He could have a Royal/Harvin type impact for this offense. I think Berry being taken at 5 was perfect for Seattle because they were forced to go OT and then got a safety who might actually be better than Berry who they would of taken at 6. I had my doubts about Carroll going into the draft but would grade this draft as an "A" so far. They went a long ways in turning this thing around. I love the draft so far!

Austin said...

Bates turned Royal into a star and I think Tate could have a similar impact playing the exact same role that Royal did. Shocked people don't like this pick......

Steve in Spain said...

I love it. We need a makeover on offense more than anything and a spark on special teams. At a minimum, Tate is a returner. He's got an elusiveness, he consistently makes people miss and breaks tackles. I think he can be special. Are Geno Atkins or Mardy Gilyard surer bets? I don't think so. I can't believe Tate fell to #60.

Funny how everybody kept jumping ahead of Seattle to take RBs (San Diego at #12 and Houston and Cleveland at #58 and 59).

hunter said...

2/3 great picks, so i give it a B. Tate is going to be average IMO

Kip Earlywine said...

I admit I don't know that much about Tate, but this pick is a steal. I expected Tate to go almost 30 picks sooner than this. Brown would have been my choice- since Locklear can never stay healthy and Brown is insane value, but this is still a great selection by Seattle.

Tate is not going to be a #1 in any system let alone Bates', but he could make an exceptionally dangerous #2. His yards after catch ability is 2nd only to Dez Bryant in this draft.

If you aren't jacked about this pick, go check out Walterfootball's WR rankings. Go see where he has Golden Tate.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010WR.php

Now again, I haven't formed my own opinion on Tate. I've only seen him 1 time, and that was when he demolished the Washington Huskies. I'll take a look at him after the draft, and I might even get game tape and scout him if I can. But right now, I like this pick a lot.

Rob Staton said...

I wonder if Tate and Hardesty were in Seattle's thoughts... we'll never know I guess? Seems strange two teams moved above Seattle. I liked both Tate and Hardesty, but only Tate in round two. Golden Tate offers par value for me. We'll see how he's worked into the offense.

Savage said...

So far I have no complaints with the draft. They didn't suckered in to the flashy pick and filled some huge holes. Okung will be solid and Thomas will be spectacular. Tate is great once he gets tha ball in his hands, but the key will be getting the seperation to get the QB to throw it to him. Might have perfered Damian Williams for that, but I think Tate has a higher ceiling.

Saturday will be fun to watch with 4 picks in the first 40 or so. I do think there is a possibility they could trade their 4th and 5/6th to get into the end of this 3rd. I would love to get Bruce Campbell late here and give Gibbs a couple years to try to develop him.

Ralphy said...

Absolutely love the Hawks draft. Having Schneider is like having Jack Z with the M's. It's nice trusting that a great pick is about to be made instead of a scary one. I have a lot of faith in the Hawks right now.

We gave up a lot more than 20 spots in the second round to get the last backup QB that we traded for (which turned out great) and I wouldn't have been surprised (or disappointed) to see Tate taken 40th so it looks like a great move.

Lenny James said...

Hey Rob, How do you feel about pick 60?I love this pick. Golden Tate is the real deal. He reminds me of Steve Smith. Looks like we got our Spliller type without the high costs. This takes care of our return game. He is a running back and reciever. Not concerned with his height of 5'10. With the additions of R and M Williams we now have a solid reciever core. Pete Carroll knows E. Griffen, Taylor Mays and D. Williams well, so if he passed on them you know they are not that good. Also, WR's like Lafell or Williams would have been a waste because there is a good chance the aquired Wiillams boys might work out as our big WR's. Looks like Branch will be on his way out soon. Now, if we can land Blount or a power RB in round 4, Id say great job to Carroll and company. For those of you who think that Golden Tate at pick 60 wasnt a good pick, I suggests you check out some youtube footage. Golden tate at 60 was the steal of the draft!!

Anthony said...

Loved the first round, reading that Thomas is going to spend his signing bonus on buying his parents a new house after they lost theirs to Hurricane Rita brought a smile to my face.

Not sure about Tate yet, WR looks like a wait and see situation at Seattle right now.

Frankfrog said...

So now you see the trade Brandon Marshall for Charlie Whitehurst and Golden Tate. It will take a couple of years but it could be OK. I'm very happy about the decisions PC made just a little ticked about how the board fell.

Anthony said...

Interesting interview as part of the NFL.com program. Lots of focus on Tate with some stuff on Carroll passing on his USC guys.

Worth looking out for if it pops up somewhere.

hunter said...

There may be some great value picks in the 4th, Brandon Ghee may be there still or Everson Griffen

Anonymous said...

Geno Atkins is still there. If he's still there in the 4th round, I would take him. I think he is really a hidden gem.

And LOL at Mayock's voice. It's painful to hear him talk.

Alex

Rob Staton said...

Lenny - I didn't like Tate in R1 or early R2. At this point? I think it's par value. For me, he isn't going to be Steve Smith, but more likely a poor-man's Percy Harvin. He's a guy who will struggle in press, he body catches, he isn't lightning quick and he just ran slants, screens and the odd deep ball at ND. He has a lot to develop. But you can let him play some slot, end arounds, screens, runs and kick returns. Get him the ball in space and let him run. That's when he's dangerous.

Rob Staton said...

Geno Atkins and Everson Griffen this late? Unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

I agree. I'm all for addressing the DL with the 4th round pick. I'm in favor of Atkins with our 1st pick of the 4th round. Or we can maybe take a gamble at Griffin. Donovan Warren at CB is also starting to enter the scene with that second 4th rounder and first 5th rounder.

I also think it's time for Gibbs to start picking the OGs. Petrus is still there and I expect him off in the 4th round.

Alex